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Old 04-12-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Liberal statists say women's health should not be legislated by the government, yet, at the same time, they want government controlled health care. I'm a bit confused how the two can co-exist. Is it only men's health care that will be regulated, whereas any regulation of women's is considered a "war on women."
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:32 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Liberal statists say women's health should not be legislated by the government, yet, at the same time, they want government controlled health care. I'm a bit confused how the two can co-exist. Is it only men's health care that will be regulated, whereas any regulation of women's is considered a "war on women."
You still don't understand how a Govt. Funded UHC works........
A Govt. Funded health care system is simply that......... Govt. Funded but it is administered by Health Care professionals..... Doctors etc....not the Govt
The Govt does not tell the Doctors who to treat or how............simple.
As far as Women's health etc in the USA today too many are trying to control them...... Insurance Companies, Churches etc.
A UHC is for the benefit of everyone not just women.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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A UHC is for the benefit of everyone not just women.
How do you draw that conclusion??
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:48 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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That is so funny. It is also logical. I agree that each individual's health care should be managed by that person and that person's health professional. Insurance companies used to have limitations on how much they would pay for certain procedures and if your doctor charged more than that, the rest of the bill was yours to pay. So I am sure that if you want to pay for your own insurance and buy it for yourself, no one else is going to have anything to do with it--until the government program kicks in. The government is the only agent dictating what anyone should do about health insurance.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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You still don't understand how a Govt. Funded UHC works........
A Govt. Funded health care system is simply that......... Govt. Funded but it is administered by Health Care professionals..... Doctors etc....not the Govt
The Govt does not tell the Doctors who to treat or how............simple.
As far as Women's health etc in the USA today too many are trying to control them...... Insurance Companies, Churches etc.
A UHC is for the benefit of everyone not just women.
No. Almost all socialized medicine systems include rationing of health care. The government doesn't just fund it, they also decide when they won't fund it. If the government accountant says you don't get the surgery, it doesn't matter what your doctor says about you needing it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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No. Almost all socialized medicine systems include rationing of health care. The government doesn't just fund it, they also decide when they won't fund it. If the government accountant says you don't get the surgery, it doesn't matter what your doctor says about you needing it.
What you've stated here has absolutely ZERO difference when compared to the system we have now. Just substitute "Blue Cross" (or the insurer of your choice) for "government" and you have our current health care system. Except of course that the insurance cos are operating with ~30% overhead added....
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Because the cabal of private sector drug businesses, private sector hospital complexes, private sector insurance companies and private sector universities have made care too expensive for the society. We need to remove the private sector excessive salaries and profits from the industry to make care affordable. The way to do that is public ownership. Then our payments will go to providing care for all instead of profit for a small elite.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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Another liberal hypocrisy!
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Liberal statists say women's health should not be legislated by the government, yet, at the same time, they want government controlled health care. I'm a bit confused how the two can co-exist. Is it only men's health care that will be regulated, whereas any regulation of women's is considered a "war on women."
No, they don't. Perhaps it is the "conservatives" who want to do that?
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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No. Almost all socialized medicine systems include rationing of health care. The government doesn't just fund it, they also decide when they won't fund it. If the government accountant says you don't get the surgery, it doesn't matter what your doctor says about you needing it.
And this is different from a private insurer deciding not to help someone because it's too expensive for them how?
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