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Old 12-26-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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Liberals may not believe in God, but they sure don't mind playing the role of one.
This is the truth.

Atheists and people that seem bent on tearing down Religion, because it annoys them so much that people project their convictions on them, replace God with legislation and Science and then project their preferences derived from these two entities on everybody.

Pure hypocrisy.

Then they cry "logic" but all the logic in the world cannot explain where their preferences derive from.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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Sweden? Genderless? Stultifyingly dull & tedious definitely. And boring. And quite happy for it = lower expectations?
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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Isn't raising a kid without gender role indoctrination exactly that - allowing the kid to come into himself or herself naturally without external shaping from outside individuals?
This is brilliant comedy!

Should we put baby out in a field somewhere to alleviate all sorts of indoctrination from anyone? Why refer to this hypothetical child as a he or she when it is quite plainly an 'it' until 'it' decides what role 'it' will play without any sort of undue forebearance upon 'it'? Hollywoodian psychology at it's finest, or 'it's' finest, what have you...

Gender role indoctrination! And without guidance or potential models till puberty hits and then it's off to the sex reassignment centre based on 'feelings' that will be have had no overt influence?

What will these endlessly speculating, guilded wealth farms known as 'modern educated people' pull out of their behinds next? This is what happens when you enable everyone to a diploma-mill award: neverending fantasies postulated on until it sounds like sense to the floating & entitlement-minded.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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1984 Apple Commercial - YouTube
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:58 PM
 
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what a drag
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:08 PM
 
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what a drag
could you possibly be more ambiguous?
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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They are idiots and have gone too far once again!!!
These politicians need to find a hobby or something too keep them from overanalyzing everything.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:46 PM
 
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Before puberty, not really.


I'd argue it's almost all socially constructed. It's pure indoctrination from day 1 starting with gender signifying names, clothing, paint colors in the nursery, gender specific toys , and on and on and on. (I love looking through the toy catalogs my sister has for my 4 year old niece. You'll never see the color pink on the pages with "boys toys" or the color blue on pages with "girl toys," and you'll never see a boy in the catalog playing with a vacuum toy or kitchen set or a girl playing with toy tool sets.)

I've always thought its funny how we've come to a point in our society where it's now okay for girls to do and like "boy things," but it's not okay for boys to do and like "girl things." If your 13 year old girl wants to play sports, wear pants, go hunting with dad, etc., it's completely fine and acceptable and usually encouraged. If your 13 year old boy wants to bake and clean house and wear a dress and makeup, he either gets beat or dragged to a therapist.

Isn't raising a kid without gender role indoctrination exactly that - allowing the kid to come into himself or herself naturally without external shaping from outside individuals?
No, it isn't pure indoctrination from day 1. They did experiments with newborns, hanging traditionally masculine and traditionally feminine object above them and measuring how much interest the newborns showed in each object. The boys showed a measurably greater interest in the masculine objects, and the girls showed a greater interest in the feminine objects. They set toy trucks and stuffed animals out in front of babies. The boys crawled to the trucks, the girls crawled to the animals. Autopsies have shown the hormone levels and brain structures of male and female infants are different. Gender differences are innate. No two ways about it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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No, it isn't pure indoctrination from day 1. They did experiments with newborns, hanging traditionally masculine and traditionally feminine object above them and measuring how much interest the newborns showed in each object. The boys showed a measurably greater interest in the masculine objects, and the girls showed a greater interest in the feminine objects. They set toy trucks and stuffed animals out in front of babies. The boys crawled to the trucks, the girls crawled to the animals. Autopsies have shown the hormone levels and brain structures of male and female infants are different. Gender differences are innate. No two ways about it.
Be careful subscribing to that logic. Because you fall right into the scientific trap that most transsexual/genders want. They are seeking the medical acceptance of cross-sex and gender confusion so they can get absorbed into the SSD/I and Medicaid infrastructure.
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