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No he’s a coward for taking an oath and going back on it. He also has no integrity and should be disciplined even hasher for his actions.
PS, it’s not that easy to just upgrade a general discharge to an honorable. The reason I know is I helped a buddy of mines try and 10 years later he’s still working on it (with lawyers). I suggest you pull data on the success rate before claiming something is so easy. And being this piece of craps high publicity for this it will probably never happen.
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yeah right, a coward for exercising his 1st amendment rights. goes to show that alot of people on both sides of the politicial aisle still believe that the 1st amendment only applies to them.
also, an other than honorable can be upgraded every couple of years. the only one that cannot is dishonorable, only a potus pardon can make that go away.
That’s your problem what you think FB is and what FB actually is, are two very different things. If you’re not using a vpn and the server isn’t owned or leased by you it’s not yours.
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i dont consider fb public, after all you can limit who sees your page.
The man was a marine and thus obviously not a coward. I am grateful for the sacrifice he made and sad that he did not listen to the multiple warnings given to him by his commanding officers.
The sad and necessary reality is that our military fight and die for freedoms they do not always get to participate in.
So I am not glad this man was discharged but I do understand why.
The constitution rules over all other laws so I could care less about "military law".
Shows how much you know about the constitution.
The first amendment protects your right to speak your mind but no where does it protect you from the natural repercussions of that speech. Try this experiment, go call your boss a "mother f'er" at the next staff meeting. Then try to find anyone willing to take your case for wrongful termination.
[quote]The first law of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the first Congress on 1 June 1789, was statute 1, chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution. [end quote]
Unfortunately for you and this Marine the Supreme Court cares a great deal.
Foundations of military discipline: know them, live them
An adequate and fair system of military justice has always been essential to the maintenance of discipline and morale in any military command. Thus, the evolution of military justice has necessarily involved the balancing of two basic interests: war fighting and the desire for an efficient, but fair, system for maintaining good order and discipline.
The Supreme Court of the United States has repeatedly noted that "the military is, by necessity, a society separate from civilian society." Goldman v. Weinberger, 475 U.S. 503, 506 (1982).
-- The military must insist upon a respect for duty and discipline without counterpart in civilian life to prepare for and perform its vital role. Id. at 507
-- Without this respect for duty and discipline we would be unable to function properly in combat.
-- The conduct of military service members is governed by special rules and standards of behavior set forth in laws, military regulations, instructions, directives, and lawful orders.
Capt. Christopher Baker
21st Space Wing Legal Office
Lucky for him he wasn't in the Continental Army. George Washington was quite the disciplinarian when it came to preserving order.
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As you can see, the ruling definitely was correct according to actual military laws.
