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Yes, ignorance. You were way off and you fail to see it yourself. Why would you make a false claim of something you're obviously not familiar with?
The blind can never see it even when it is right befpre their own eyes. The funny part is they are actually touting the post that demolished their whole spew.
You're being absolutely ridiculous now, do you seriously think health care insurance is FREE in America? I'm paying about $7,000 a year for a $300 deductible with low co-pays.
Oh, maybe you think poor people get free coverage, lol. Nope, your and my insurance are paying for the free ER health care the poor take. That and our tax dollars. Wouldn't a better health care system allow the poor to visit a doctor's office for $27 than to herd them into ER waiting rooms and dispense treatment costing 10 or 20 times as much? If you believe that, I can understand why you think America's poor have better health care and better health. Rose colored glasses do that.
I don't believe I have ever said Health care in the USA is FREE.
You could pay more, or less, per year which would raise, or lower, your copay and deductibles.
I have never implied poor people get free coverage. I'm well aware of the costs of people using hospitals and not paying their bill. To answer your question....how do you better our healthcare system to get people into a doctors visit of $27? Dynamics and complexities! What do you propose? Higher taxes? Subsidies? You need money to do it, where will it come from to change our system? in the end, the citizen is stuck with less money and increased inflation.
You are the one who claimed that those 3 countries were so much better off than the USA, I merely showed they really aren't that different when it comes right down to it.
I see comprehension isn't your key, you always go to straw men and change the dynamics of the argument. You're but a waste of time.
Yes, ignorance. You were way off and you fail to see it yourself. Why would you make a false claim of something you're obviously not familiar with?
Way off, false claim? Enlighten me, which comment?
Basic Medical Services are free, however you have paid for them through the NIS, this covers regular medical consultation, medical emergency and hospitalization. Some drugs are even free (white paper), while others are not (blue paper) but they are subsidized. Consultations at the GP, there is a charge (the $27 as claimed), while visits to specialists, dental care and radiology tests are entirely supported by the patients. Non emergency transport to the hospital is also charged to the patient. The chronically ill are exempt (the healthy vs unhealthy claim earlier). Now we get to patient exemption cards. If one has paid a certain amount during the year they may be eligible for one of 2 cards; group 1 covers approved patient charges paid to doctors, psychologists and outpatient clinics and for x-rays, patient travel and blue prescription medicine and equipment. The exemption card for user fee 2 covers approved patient charges paid for physiotherapy, certain dental diseases, approved rehabilitation institutions and travel for treatment abroad.
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I don't believe I have ever said Health care in the USA is FREE.
You could pay more, or less, per year which would raise, or lower, your copay and deductibles.
I have never implied poor people get free coverage. I'm well aware of the costs of uninsured people using hospitals. To answer your question....how do you better our healthcare system to get people into a doctors visit of $27? Dynamics and complexities! What do you propose? Higher taxes? Subsidies? You need money to do it, where will it come from to change our system? in the end, the citizen is stuck with less money and increased inflation.
You are the who claimed that those 3 countries were so much better off than the USA, I merely showed they really aren't that different when it comes right down to it.
I see comprehension isn't your key, you always go to straw men and change the dynamics of the argument. You're but a waste of time.
Yet, you have NOT shown the poor here is better off than there. Are you residing in another dimension, you're done the opposite.
Dude, you always have trouble admitting you're wrong?
Yet, you have NOT shown the poor here is better off than there. Are you residing in another dimension, you're done the opposite.
Dude, you always have trouble admitting you're wrong?
Wow, so I need to show that the poor here are better off then there? And here I thought I only needed to show that your claims were but incorrect based on all your criteria. Please define poor now. Again with changing the dynamics.
Yet, you have NOT shown the poor here is better off than there. Are you residing in another dimension, you're done the opposite.
Dude, you always have trouble admitting you're wrong?
Back to your ORIGINAL claim - comment 1284: Germany, Sweden and Norway are doing something right. Low unemployment, low poverty, strong work ethic.... What do we have? A mess cause by corporate greed that put bottom line ahead of this country.
You claimed poverty levels, not that I need to prove that the poor are better off or not? Must be that changing dimension you live in, you know, the one where you admit that you continuously change your claims.
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What do you propose? Higher taxes? Subsidies? You need money to do it, where will it come from to change our system? in the end, the citizen is stuck with less money and increased inflation.
