Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 06-03-2012, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,882,036 times
Reputation: 11259

Advertisements

Of course, the circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly points to the physical confrontation being started by Martin. No case, folks. We got a political lynching here.

 
Old 06-03-2012, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
18,630 posts, read 19,411,561 times
Reputation: 6462
The proscution has said they have no evidence who started the fight. It appears you aren't keeping up. Also the circumstances lean Zimmermans way than anything else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000 View Post
circumstantial evidence. It appears you may think that there has to be direct evidence for everything.

Circumstantial Evidence is also known as indirect evidence. It is distinguished from direct evidence, which, if believed, proves the existence of a particular fact without any inference or presumption required. Circumstantial evidence relates to a series of facts other than the particular fact sought to be proved. The party offering circumstantial evidence argues that this series of facts, by reason and experience, is so closely associated with the fact to be proved that the fact to be proved may be inferred simply from the existence of the circumstantial evidence.

Circumstantial Evidence legal definition of Circumstantial Evidence. Circumstantial Evidence synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 05:52 AM
 
11,186 posts, read 6,502,931 times
Reputation: 4622
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
The proscution has said they have no evidence who started the fight. It appears you aren't keeping up. Also the circumstances lean Zimmermans way than anything else.
One thing everyone should agree on because it's in the law books for all to see. A person who initially provokes the use of force against himself may Still use deadly force if he reasonably believes that he's in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm And has exhausted every reasonable means to escape.

So even if gz threw the 1st punch or shoved tm, IF tm then got gz to the ground and was banging his head, self defense is still in play.

If tm's girlfriend testifies, she could say what she told the prosecutor, that she heard somebody bump tm, she could hear the grass, and that tm said 'get off, get off.'
 
Old 06-03-2012, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,882,036 times
Reputation: 11259
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
So even if gz threw the 1st punch or shoved tm, IF tm then got gz to the ground and was banging his head, self defense is still in play.
I agree charging Z-man with any crime here is a gross miscarriage of justice.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 06:08 AM
 
12,265 posts, read 6,467,324 times
Reputation: 9435
If zimmy walks,anyone in Florida has the green light to shoot whoever they want.That`s probably a bad thing.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,882,036 times
Reputation: 11259
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmagoo View Post
If zimmy walks,anyone in Florida has the green light to shoot whoever they want.That`s probably a bad thing.
Maybe we can get a few Democrats shot between now and November.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 08:08 AM
 
8,560 posts, read 6,405,718 times
Reputation: 1173
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
One thing everyone should agree on because it's in the law books for all to see. A person who initially provokes the use of force against himself may Still use deadly force if he reasonably believes that he's in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm And has exhausted every reasonable means to escape.

So even if gz threw the 1st punch or shoved tm, IF tm then got gz to the ground and was banging his head, self defense is still in play.

If tm's girlfriend testifies, she could say what she told the prosecutor, that she heard somebody bump tm, she could hear the grass, and that tm said 'get off, get off.'
And GZ's credibility still plays an important part in convincing a jury that he was in fear for his life.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 08:16 AM
 
8,560 posts, read 6,405,718 times
Reputation: 1173
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
The proscution has said they have no evidence who started the fight. It appears you aren't keeping up. Also the circumstances lean Zimmermans way than anything else.
It appears that you think investigation stops at the probable cause affidavit ...

There is at least one witness who can testify to things she heard in her telephone conversation with TM that indicate Zimmerman started the fight. Clearly, you are refusing to "keep up" and to see or acknowledge anything that disagrees with your personal view of what happened that night.

Doesn't sound like you get how circumstantial evidence works, or for that matter what it really is.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 08:20 AM
 
8,560 posts, read 6,405,718 times
Reputation: 1173
Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
Maybe we can get a few Democrats shot between now and November.
That ^^^^^^ said, now we know how seriously we should take your opinion in re Zimmerman case.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 08:23 AM
 
8,560 posts, read 6,405,718 times
Reputation: 1173
Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
I agree charging Z-man with any crime here is a gross miscarriage of justice.
You should call the defense team and give them your proof; surely, they would like to get this case thrown out immediately since Zimmerman has to turn himself in and go to jail today.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top