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Old 04-20-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Think Obama's massive debt-increasing policies have done anything to actually improve America? Think again.

"The middle class in America is being systematically wiped out, and most people don't even realize what is happening. Every single year, millions more Americans fall out of the middle class and become dependent on the government."

The following is from a recent article in the New York Times....

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Old 04-20-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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You think Romney cares about tackling the 1 percent holding most of the wealth? I think not. Sounds like you are ideologically confused. Romney is a Republican, and as such his policies are indifferent to income inequality.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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You think Romney cares about tackling the 1 percent holding most of the wealth? I think not. Sounds like you are ideologically confused. Romney is a Republican, and as such his policies are indifferent to income inequality.
Why should he "tackle" the 1%? Did they do something wrong on the way to becoming successful? If so, what did they do?
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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You think Romney cares about tackling the 1 percent holding most of the wealth? I think not. Sounds like you are ideologically confused. Romney is a Republican, and as such his policies are indifferent to income inequality.
'Ideologically confused'? No, 'ideologically liberated' actually.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Why should he "tackle" the 1%? Did they do something wrong on the way to becoming successful? If so, what did they do?
No, Romney doesn't want to 'tackle' the 1% - he wants to give them more tax breaks. Is that wrong? I don't know - is it?
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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Following un-fair trade treaties it was the AMT which cemented the federal government's intent to destroy the middle class.

Y'all remember the AMT don't you? It was one of those taxes sold to the American people which promised to "tax the rich" but quickly hit the middle class hardest.

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#24 When Barack Obama took office, there were 32 million Americans on food stamps. Now, there are more than 46 million Americans on food stamps
That is one out of every seven Americans on food stamps. Anyone still think "victory gardens" and personal responsibility aren't important?
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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No, Romney doesn't want to 'tackle' the 1% - he wants to give them more tax breaks. Is that wrong? I don't know - is it?
The number of rich people in America is relatively small. The number of lower income and middle class is very large. Romney's plan appears to tax the rich at ~25% ...the middle 20% at ~15%.....and the lower 20% of wage earners will be taxed at 3.4%. I see nothing wrong with this equation, especially if he follows through with cutting domestic spending as he proposes. This looks "fair" to me.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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The number of rich people in America is relatively small. The number of lower income and middle class is very large. Romney's plan appears to tax the rich at ~25% ...the middle 20% at ~15%.....and the lower 20% of wage earners will be taxed at 3.4%. I see nothing wrong with this equation, especially if he follows through with cutting domestic spending as he proposes. This looks "fair" to me.
I really don't care what spin you put on it, and I am not a fan of either Obama or Romney, but this is what the 'rich' tax would look like under each:

"If Republican front-runner Mitt Romney reaches the White House, he will push for the top 1 percent of American earners to save an average of $150,000 in taxes, according to an analysis of his tax plan by the Tax Policy Center. In a second Obama administration, these Americans would pay about $83,000 more than they do now.

For the top 0.1 percent, the difference is even more stark. Romney’s plan would save them an average of $725,000. President Obama would raise their taxes by $450,000.

Romney, by contrast, waves off Obama’s talk of income inequality as the “politics of envy.”

Obama, Romney tax plans for ultra-rich offer window on disparate economic views - The Washington Post
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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I really don't care what spin you put on it, and I am not a fan of either Obama or Romney, but this is what the 'rich' tax would look like under each:

"If Republican front-runner Mitt Romney reaches the White House, he will push for the top 1 percent of American earners to save an average of $150,000 in taxes, according to an analysis of his tax plan by the Tax Policy Center. In a second Obama administration, these Americans would pay about $83,000 more than they do now.

For the top 0.1 percent, the difference is even more stark. Romney’s plan would save them an average of $725,000. President Obama would raise their taxes by $450,000.

Romney, by contrast, waves off Obama’s talk of income inequality as the “politics of envy.”

Obama, Romney tax plans for ultra-rich offer window on disparate economic views - The Washington Post
We're still talking a handful of people whose additional tax burden would not solve a single budgetary problem in America.

Is this hatred for the rich about principle, or is it about finances? While I can respect principle, I don't see how the math adds up to anything other than political pandering and bluster by Obama and his surrogates.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Hah - good one! Bet you and your family are rolling around in your trailer homes with that one!
Good one

I agree with you... it is a shame though that the partisan hacks are so easily fooled (like the one you quoted)
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