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Old 04-23-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Get those five year olds to work, people! Romney needs another house!

Really, Reps, you are at your pettiest on this issue. Begrudging people food is sick and disgusting.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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Food stamp rolls climb 150% as unemployment drops, the recession ends, and Obama turns around the crashing economy.

Lucy, something isnt adding up here...
It adds up. Hundreds of thousands of new jobs.................that pay minimum wage. No pay, future, benefits...welcome to the new 4th world, modern, advanced nations living in poverty.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Lot of posters whining about how bad the country is being run,how the working half of the people are so hard done by by having to support the other half who apparently just sit around and collect government entitlements eg; food stamps, welfare,free medical..And all the while living with a government run by a Kenyan despot whose sole purpose is evidently pushing the country toward Socialism if not out right Communism.....If i had to endure such hardships in any given country i think i'd consider moving rather than spending a life in such a stressful ever degenerating country..
So solving the huge problem of the "two tier" system should not be solved and running away is the favored option.......
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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It adds up. Hundreds of thousands of new jobs.................that pay minimum wage. No pay, future, benefits...welcome to the new 4th world, modern, advanced nations living in poverty.
Somebody has to step up and innovate and offer better paying jobs.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Lot of posters whining about how bad the country is being run,how the working half of the people are so hard done by by having to support the other half who apparently just sit around and collect government entitlements eg; food stamps, welfare,free medical..And all the while living with a government run by a Kenyan despot whose sole purpose is evidently pushing the country toward Socialism if not out right Communism.....If i had to endure such hardships in any given country i think i'd consider moving rather than spending a life in such a stressful ever degenerating country..
My dad witnessed the early years of communism in the former Soviet Union. He said that the high government and the vast number of their henchmen and bureaucrats got so top heavy that he knew the system would eventually fall over. You can not have 23 percent of the people doing the real work while the rest push buttons and count the beans.

For every child in America that is snatched up by child protection people..that child will employ...at least three social workers...a doctor...a couple of specialists..one pharmacist ...a driver...one lawyer...a couple of judges...and a slew of other experts. For every family collecting welfare there are a dozen who "take care of them"- all through tax dollars...It is a self imploding and self consuming enterprise...That functions on an industrial level.

Much like the Catholic church that if the poor ceased to exist they would no longer exist.

Same can be said for law enforcement and the jailing system...if the poor disappeared...all those employed by these institutions would be collecting food stamps. YOU NEED THE POOR- THE CRIMINALS AND BIG GOVERNMENT..WITH OUT THEM...EVERYONE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET REAL JOBS...LIKE GROWING FOOD...OR MAKING CLOTHING- OR BUILDING SOMETHING....


The government likes it the way it is...the haves need the have nots...
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Without Food Stamps not only would a lot of poor people be starving but our Mid-Western Agri-business would be bankrupt as well. Please remember food stamps buy food and without that market a lot of farmers, elevator operators, shippers and flour mills would be without customers.

That the food Stamp program actually feeds people is of far less importance than it allowing Midwestern farmers to pay their land and machinery mortgages. Food Stamps feed nearly as many bank investors as poor people. Food Stamps are definitely a RED STATE program.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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During the 90's, food stamps were introduced to cut down the cash benefit rolls. A big reason why a deal was struck between President Clinton and the Republican-controlled Congress in 1996.... at that time, was that the number of Americans who received cash payments — what's often thought of as welfare — was at an all-time high. The Clinton overhaul made it much harder to qualify for those payments, and today the welfare rolls are down 70 percent, but that's only if you define welfare in one way.
The program has become a political talking point for some critics: Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich began referring to President Obama as the "food stamp president," and said "no president has put more people on food stamps than Obama." It's not technically true, and in fact more people went on food stamps under President George W. Bush.
Food stamps have now replaced cash assistance as the most common form of welfare in America. Ten times more Americans receive food aid than those who get cash welfare, this is because food stamps have now replaced the welfare payments previously obtainable.
When people went for help during the recession, they could get food stamps and it turned out they couldn't get welfare ... so food stamp participation went up from 30 million before the recession up to 46 million.
The food stamp benefits are not huge and if you have no other income, they equal only about a third of the poverty line.We have 6 million people in the country whose only income is food stamps because welfare is basically gone.
To try to say that Obama has created the rise in the use of food stamps today is far far from the truth. The system created in the 90's changed the way that poorer Americans can get any kind of help against poverty........... NOT Obama........... ANY president that had been in office after the recession would have exactly the same food stamp "crisis" because no other real option exists for millions of the new unemployed and poor Americans "crippled" by the recession.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I do know a single mom who earns about $21000yearly and receives food stamps in addition to child support. Her live in boyfriend who works part time also receives food stamps.

I was surprised she receives any in view of the income and child support. Also, I was surprised the BF receives food stamps. I thought food stamps were for single moms, disabled, elderly,etc not able bodied young males.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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So solving the huge problem of the "two tier" system should not be solved and running away is the favored option.......

Speaking of two tier system, liberals used to advance a theory of a two tier labor market.

The idea is that there are two employment tracks, a track of "primary" jobs that are stable and which pay middle class wages and benefits, and a track of "secondary" jobs which are often menial, dead-end, low-paying, without fringe benefits, and/or unstable.

I remember seeing a lot of discussion among liberals in the 1970s (it started earlier than that) and then it faded out over the years to the point that it became almost nonexistent by the Clinton years.

Ironically that secondary job tier seems to have substantially expanded and I'm not seeing liberals talking about it much.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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It adds up. Hundreds of thousands of new jobs.................that pay minimum wage. No pay, future, benefits...welcome to the new 4th world, modern, advanced nations living in poverty.
Poverty?

110 Million US Households
99 Million US Households with cable, satellite or both
90 Million US Households with internet service
47 Million US Households receiving Food Stamps.

I'll allow you to demonstrate your ability to employ logic and reason on the world wide web.

Don't fail.

What's wrong with that picture?...

Mircea

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Somebody has to step up and innovate and offer better paying jobs.
You are better paid.

You were over-paid for such a long time. You are now experiencing a "wage correction" and your wages are being adjusted downward to where they should have always been.

Economically...

Mircea
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