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Old 04-21-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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I am not an atheist.
Or a liberal.
Or even particularly pro-choice.

I am anti wacko religious right.
"anti-wacko religious right".

Listen to your talk. It's pure drivel, spoken with hatred toward those of the Christian faith.

You don't have anything to denote "wacko", but instead, without posting any signs relating to anything having to with the students who have erected the crosses and them being wacko, you speak on the subject as though you are an expert.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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I can invoke my faith in Jesus any time I want. Are you about saying that I can't be who I am? Are you about denying me my religous rights? That's against the law, for one.

You do realize this thread deals with the cross, a Christian symbol? Christianity is connected with this thread, so I'd say that you're acting in a strange manner by speaking in the ways that you are doing.



It's called apologetics. Learn the meaning of it.
You can, indeed, do all of those things, but you won't win any debate points.

To you it's apologetics, to me it's evangelistic Christian nonsense.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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You might want to check out this thread, Andy.

University Says Christian Club CAN'T Require LEADERS To Be Devout CHRISTIAN
Thanks, Fred. (Perhaps your name isn't Fred, but then mine isn't Andy. Funny how assumptions get you places you never thought you'd go, isn't it?)

Actually, if the University is a state-sponsored one, our prohibition against the combining of church and state mandates this stance, and it is one of which I approve.

In any scenario, the combination of Church and State is dangerous. One needs only to look at Iran, Iraq, or Turkey to see and understand the dangers. Look up, America, and learn.

Religious practice is a spiritual practice. Practice your personal religion as you make your political choices, but do not expect to impose them on others, politically.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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I'd have to say the "pro life" group initiated this, when they picked a religious icon to try to make a policitcal statement. Turnabout is fair play.
I"ve only read through post #30. I agree. I don't like seeing the cross used like that, either. I've even seen people use crosses to represent dead prairie dogs! Disgusting.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Therefore it's a graven image and a proxy for worshipping a god.
You do realize that Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are called the Trinity. Worshiping Jesus is worshiping God.

If one were to look at the Bible, the Israelites were worshiping the golden calf when Moses came down from Mt. Sinai. God was angry because the Israelites were worshiping an idol, something completely unrelated to God.

Respecting and revering the cross is not worshiping the cross or the wood. It's paying respect to Christ of whom it represents. The symbol of early Christians was the fish (icthus). While they didn't worship the symbol, it was a symbol of their faith in Christ. The same with the cross.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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More sermons....
In response to someone else giving an "anti-sermon". People are speaking about Christianity, and so am I, so what is the difference?

Oh, you want only one side to say their piece, as long as it is demeaning to Christianity. I get it. Those who say such are not talking about Christianity or religion, and they're not really giving a sermon, but if someone of faith respond to them, even if the person who speaks negatively of Christianity brought it up, then that's a sermon.

Irrational thinking.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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What's truly disgusting is seemingly adult Americans who are too damn stupid to understand the very simple meaning of C-H-O-I-C-E and insist on using the baseless, asinine term 'pro-abortion'.
It is being for abortion, isn't it? Thus, it's pro-abortion. I don't see why you'd be having the disconnect in understand this.

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Sadly, what they embrace is stupidity.
More nice comments directed toward those who are pro-Life.

Stupidity? To not desire an unborn child to die.

You'd want a child such as this to die? That sounds crazy to me.

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Your so-called choice is usually nothing more than people wanting to run away from their sexual irresponsibility, instead blaming the child.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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You can, indeed, do all of those things, but you won't win any debate points.

To you it's apologetics, to me it's evangelistic Christian nonsense.
Only to the blind.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Actually, if the University is a state-sponsored one, our prohibition against the combining of church and state mandates this stance, and it is one of which I approve.
Again, there is no separation of church and state. There is a prohibition against a state church. However, there is also a freedom of religion clause, and this applies to any person, in any location, regardless of where they happen to be or what office they happen to hold.

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In any scenario, the combination of Church and State is dangerous. One needs only to look at Iran, Iraq, or Turkey to see and understand the dangers. Look up, America, and learn.
You do realize that you're talking about Islam, and Islam is not Christianity. Christianity doesn't tell people to kill others in the name of God. That you'd try to insinuate a comparison is strange.

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Religious practice is a spiritual practice. Practice your personal religion as you make your political choices, but do not expect to impose them on others, politically.
No one has imposed anything on anyone.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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I am not an atheist.
Or a liberal.
Or even particularly pro-choice.

I am anti wacko religious right.


I agree 100% with points #1, #3 and #4.

And, I am a Christian.
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