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"Many" is not "most." Many people are millionaires, but most are not. Is the new standard for what qualifies as a good liberal arts degree that "many" will succeed when "most" will not?
To my knowledge, physics is not liberal arts. It's physics. Liberals Arts undergrads don't walk out of college and into the physics lab as a physicist. Stop deflecting.
Pretty sure physics is considered a liberal art... and "many" does count for something, especially when you consider many non-LA majors are not successful. Which leads one to believe your major doesn't matter all that much, as it's more about your personal skills, connections, drive to succeed, etc. Tons of people don't even work in a field related to their major, and a certain percentage (including myself) also go on to earn graduate degrees - thus rendering the BA/BS fairly insignificant.
Pretty sure physics is considered a liberal art... and "many" does count for something, especially when you consider many non-LA majors are not successful. Which leads one to believe your major doesn't matter all that much, as it's more about your personal skills, connections, drive to succeed, etc. Tons of people don't even work in a field related to their major, and a certain percentage (including myself) also go on to earn graduate degrees - thus rendering the BA/BS fairly insignificant.
Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot. A physics degree is a hard science degree. A liberal arts degree is not.
You folks have completely fell off your rockers if you're trying to equate a hard science such as physics with a liberal arts hodge podge. Somewhere along the way you've been fed something close to bull pucky, and you've swallowed it whole.
Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot.
You folks have completely fell off your rockers if you're trying to equate a hard science such as physics with a "liberal art." Somewhere along the way you've been fed something close to bull pucky, and you've swallowed it whole.
Did you happen to notice there's a BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN PHYSICS and a LIBERAL ARTS PHYSICS degree? Which one of those degrees do you think is geared towards a career in physics???
They wouldn't even offer the BS in Physics if the Liberal Arts Physics program was sufficient. Liberal Arts are not science degrees. Hence the BACHELOR OF SCIENCE.
Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot. A physics degree is a hard science degree. A liberal arts degree is not.
You folks have completely fell off your rockers if you're trying to equate a hard science such as physics with a liberal arts hodge podge. Somewhere along the way you've been fed something close to bull pucky, and you've swallowed it whole.
Did you happen to notice there's a BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN PHYSICS and a LIBERAL ARTS PHYSICS degree? Which one of those degrees do you think is geared towards a career in physics???
They wouldn't even offer the BS in Physics if the Liberal Arts Physics program was sufficient. Liberal Arts are not science degrees. Hence the BACHELOR OF SCIENCE.
Nice backtracking. You are running away from your statement like a pro.
Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot.
You folks have completely fell off your rockers if you're trying to equate a hard science such as physics with a "liberal art." Somewhere along the way you've been fed something close to bull pucky, and you've swallowed it whole.
Actually, I don't think this kid (economically, he's still a preschooler) would have too much trouble finding a job -- it's just likely to be at the very bottom of the heap -- in a call center or something similar -- where he won't have to do any original thinking, or make too many decisions.
If he can handle people well, and keep his political garbage to himself while on the job, he can get a shot at managing people, which is surely an art rather than "hard science" -- but the winds of office politics shift constantly.
And if he's in reasonably good shape physically, there are lots of seasonal, outdoor-type jobs in the indusrial-sevices sector, some of them with considerable travel and/or variety, plus the prospect of an Unemployment check in the off-season. (If a "gimp" like me, with a spinal fusion, could do it at the age of 54, spraying weeds at oil refineries, so can he.)
As always, it's up to the individual; don't run crying to Barry-O and his clique to cover your poor decisions -- the finances of our nation are already strained to the limit.
Did you happen to notice there's a BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN PHYSICS and a LIBERAL ARTS PHYSICS degree? Which one of those degrees do you think is geared towards a career in physics???
They wouldn't even offer the BS in Physics if the Liberal Arts Physics program was sufficient. Liberal Arts are not science degrees. Hence the BACHELOR OF SCIENCE.
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Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot. A physics degree is a hard science degree. A liberal arts degree is not.
Different people have different definitions for liberal arts. Some include science some don't. Typically when science is included it seems like it is more abstract science than hard science. My school does not consider the hard sciences as liberal arts.
liberal arts
Definition
lib·er·al arts
PLURAL NOUN
1. education in culturally oriented subjects: college and university subjects that are intended to provide students with general cultural knowledge, e.g. languages, literature, history, and philosophy
noun
1.
the academic course of instruction at a college intended to provide general knowledge and comprising the arts, humanities, natural sciences, and social sciences, as opposed to professional or technical subjects.
Merriam Webster says Liberal Arts is designed to develop general intellectual capabilities (such as reason and judgment) as opposed to professional or vocation skills.
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Find me a school somewhere...anywhere....that considers a liberal arts degree a hard science degree and i'll lick your boot. A physics degree is a hard science degree. A liberal arts degree is not.
You folks have completely fell off your rockers if you're trying to equate a hard science such as physics with a liberal arts hodge podge. Somewhere along the way you've been fed something close to bull pucky, and you've swallowed it whole.
Both of my daughters have BAs in biology, one from the University of Colorado, the other from St. Olaf College.
http://www.stolaf.edu/catalog/academ...-and-more.html
***Students at St. Olaf have 39 Bachelor of Arts graduation majors from which to select, as well as a number of teaching majors and teaching certification programs. Many students choose to major in one of the traditional liberal arts disciplines, such as art, biology, economics, history, mathematics, philosophy, or a world language.
I don't want you to lick my boots; I'd rather you lick my kitchen floor. It needs to be washed.
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