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Old 04-25-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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We agree discovery of BSE predates GMO's.

We will disagree about anything related to reportage and raw numbers as that depends on factors involving integrity.
i probably would agree on the latter; it's just not a factor here. it's irrelevant to the OP's question.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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woops. you're off by 10 years. GM corn/soy wasn't around until the mid-90s.
The practice of feeding Bone meal to the cattle was banned, yet there is still BSE ? Could the GMO's cause the same disease?

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why do you suppose there are more cases of BSE in countries where GM crops are banned outright?
I don't know if that is the case today. The disease was managed up until the latest event in California.

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900 cases of BSE in france, 4 in USA.
What were they eating, and when did they appear?

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thoughts?
Me thinks Man meddles too much.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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..............and the first case originated in......Great Britain.

Mo keeps getting suckered over and over and over by the conspiracy folks.
Suckers ask questions?

It's bad to pose questions on a discussion forum?
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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Cow acquire Mad Cow - Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy by eating other cow meat or bone meal. It has nothing to do with GMO feed.
As far as we know.

Are you saying that the farmer in CA. gave bone meal to his diseased cow?

I didn't see that reported.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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Didn't mad cow disease initially show up in Europe where GMO products have never been allowed? I think GMO crops are a bad deal, but I think you're reaching here with the premise of your thread.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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The practice of feeding Bone meal to the cattle was banned, yet there is still BSE ?
yup. see atypical BSE, post 18.


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Could the GMO's cause the same disease?
no.

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I don't know if that is the case today. The disease was managed up until the latest event in California.
it's still the case today.

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What were they eating, and when did they appear?
i'm sure if you're truly interested, you'll look it up yourself.

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Me thinks Man meddles too much.
that's certainly true in some cases. hard to give it any credence for this recent case in CA, though.

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As far as we know.

Are you saying that the farmer in CA. gave bone meal to his diseased cow?

I didn't see that reported.
atypical BSE. post 18.

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Didn't mad cow disease initially show up in Europe where GMO products have never been allowed?
yep, post 11.

lots of good reading on the subject here:
MAD COW DISEASE: THE BSE EPIDEMIC IN GREAT BRITAIN
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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Didn't mad cow disease initially show up in Europe where GMO products have never been allowed? I think GMO crops are a bad deal, but I think you're reaching here with the premise of your thread.
I'd say i'm testing intuition and documenting it on a forum.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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The Biology doesn't pan out. Mad Cow is caused by a prion, which is similar to a virus but even simpler. It's an infectious disease. This particular prion can infect sheep, cows and humans, but not plants. You can not get Mad Cow disease from eating a plant, even if that plant is genetically modified.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:52 AM
 
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First Mad Cow disease was reported in 1985/86

Right as GMO feed stock was being pushed. The bone meal from other cows and sheep is blamed, but did anyone ever look at the concentrations of GMO proteins in the bone meal?
Why is BSE (Mad cow) still around, if feed lots no longer feed dead cow bones to beef cattle?
How do you explain the connection between kuru and mad cow? FYI, the incubation period for either can be an extremely long time.

Kuru (disease) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That effected a very primitive tribe that would have been no where near anything genetically modified.
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Biology doesn't pan out. Mad Cow is caused by a prion, which is similar to a virus but even simpler. It's an infectious disease. This particular prion can infect sheep, cows and humans, but not plants. You can not get Mad Cow disease from eating a plant, even if that plant is genetically modified.

How long can it live outside a live animal?
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