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Old 04-27-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It may be GOP's wish as a collective, but I have more respect for the 28 republicans who voted against it while 42 democrat idiots voted for it. The final roll call by party:
Republicans: 206 (Yes), 28 (No)
Democrats: 42 (Yes), 140 (No)

So, this bill had support of 88% of the republicans and 23% of the democrats in the house.

The complete list here: Final Vote Results
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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While I haven't studied the issue up close, on the surface I am more inclined to go with the voluntary measures versus another layer of bureacracy at DHS (if have to go with the legislation at all).
I was expecting you did instead of another shot in the dark, after the first argument you made in this thread. Quote:

"The House version and the Senate version are diametrically opposed. The Senate version wants DHS to set the standards and provide the monitoring.....the House version wants corporations and governments to act voluntarily to report cyber attacks.

In other words, Democrats want bigger government.....Republicans want smaller government and less regulations on business. That's the overarching challenge of our time.
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I thought both parties had versions?
How would the Dems version be any less an effort to expand government?
Let us stick with the version that passed. Since this one got an overwhelming support by the republicans, it must be the republican version. What do you think of it?

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Hate to break it to you, but CISPA enjoys bi-partisan support. Open up your eyes, for once, and put away the partisan hackery. Both parties hate freedom and are statist
This one has overwhelmingly republican support.

PS. I think this article makes a pretty good starting point for the discussion.

CISPA: US "Intelligence Sharing" Bill Explained
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hate to break it to you, but CISPA enjoys bi-partisan support. Open up your eyes, for once, and put away the partisan hackery. Both parties hate freedom and are statist
I am independent, but if you must know, the YEA votes were 42 Democrats and 206 Republicans.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I thought both parties had versions?
How would the Dems version be any less an effort to expand government?
I am assuming we are talking about the topic: The GOP bill.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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"The US House of Representatives has just passed the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA (HR 3523) by a vote of 248 to 168."

US House Passes Controversial CISPA CyberSecurity Bill

There hasn't been any dancing on the street with this one, somehow. Or is it of no concern to any of our "Real and Patriotic Americans"?
In detail tell us exactly the part/s you are against, in full context, with explanation why.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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It may be GOP's wish as a collective, but I have more respect for the 28 republicans who voted against it while 42 democrat idiots voted for it. The final roll call by party:
Republicans: 206 (Yes), 28 (No)
Democrats: 42 (Yes), 140 (No)

So, this bill had support of 88% of the republicans and 23% of the democrats in the house.

The complete list here: Final Vote Results
As usual your bias is showing. "it while 42 democrat idiots voted for it". Anyone who disagrees with YOU is an idiot.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well the Democrat majority Senate is working on their own version of this.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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The House version and the Senate version are diametrically opposed. The Senate version wants DHS to set the standards and provide the monitoring.....the House version wants corporations and governments to act voluntarily to report cyber attacks.

In other words, Democrats want bigger government.....Republicans want smaller government and less regulations on business. That's the overarching challenge of our time.
This is a real stretch and a focus on the wrong things imo. Both suck.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The totalitarian state is being formed all around us. Most people are blind to see it. Vote Republican or Democrat. It matters not. They are one in the same and leading us directly into hell.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Insanity: CISPA Just Got Way Worse, And Then Passed On Rushed Vote | Techdirt
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The government would be able to search information it collects under CISPA for the purposes of investigating American citizens with complete immunity from all privacy protections as long as they can claim someone committed a "cybersecurity crime". Basically it says the 4th Amendment does not apply online, at all.
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