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Old 05-02-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Good. I hope Romney puts the money to good use and is successful in removing Obozo from office.
The best way for Romney to do that is to donate it to Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the only candidate who can take votes directly from Obama's base.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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I put gas in my car as well. I know I am contributing to the pockets of big oil. The problem is that oil and gas are necessities. Do you really think they are going to quit selling oil and gas if they have to pay a few billion more in taxes? Of course not, but why pay a few billion more in taxes if you can bribe representatives with a few million. Our govt. has sold out to big oil.
Not exactly, it goes deeper than that. Most of our elected representatives, Obama included, will prostitute their positions of power to those who can keep the money flowing to their districts and to their campaigns. Congress is just a rung on the ladder and the aspirations of most of the men and women who occupy the offices on Capitol Hill is to gain more money, and more power. Often this means later becoming lobbiests for same corporations at a much higher pay scale.

If one were to look beyond Big Oil it would see Big Banks who own tremendous amounts of stock in these global energy corporations.

Clue: see BP oil in Libya and JP Morgan.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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$200 million to aid Romney’s campaign and defeat Obama.

What does Big Oil get in return for its $200 million investment in Romney? It gets to keep its billions in special tax breaks every year. So middle-class families pay twice — high gas prices when they fill up the tank and $4 billion in taxpayer-funded subsidies for an industry where the top five companies combined made $137 billion in profits last year.

At the same time, Big Oil gets one of its own dictating Romney’s energy policy. Harold Hamm, Romney’s top energy adviser, is a billionaire oil executive who says clean energy is a “magical fantasy” and wants high gas prices. He admitted as much when he declared in 2009 that cheap oil would be a “disaster.”

Opinion: Romney upset at high gas prices? His donors aren
They don't source the 200million. It's just some guy in a blog making up a number. Besides, Big Oil has pledged 500million to Obama.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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You can look at any sector on openscrets.com you want and there is two heavy hitters with very wide margins, both overwhelmingly support the Democrats. Unions and lawyers and the money they throw around makes oil and gas look like chicken feed.
Exxon gave the most money in 2008 to.........Obama. #2 was Hillary.
#3 was McCain.

The idea that major corporations are going to just climb into bed with one party and not get their hooks in everyone is laughably absurd propaganda.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Obama hasn't even began to campaign, do you have any proof of this? or is this just more fabricated ultra-right wing lies? I'll wait,...
Surely, you jest. Hasn't begun to campaign? That's all the freak does. Ever.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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$200 million to aid Romney’s campaign and defeat Obama.

What does Big Oil get in return for its $200 million investment in Romney? It gets to keep its billions in special tax breaks every year. So middle-class families pay twice — high gas prices when they fill up the tank and $4 billion in taxpayer-funded subsidies for an industry where the top five companies combined made $137 billion in profits last year.

At the same time, Big Oil gets one of its own dictating Romney’s energy policy. Harold Hamm, Romney’s top energy adviser, is a billionaire oil executive who says clean energy is a “magical fantasy” and wants high gas prices. He admitted as much when he declared in 2009 that cheap oil would be a “disaster.”

Opinion: Romney upset at high gas prices? His donors aren
With the total assault against energy from this president, it will take at least $200 million to speak out against it.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Exxon gave the most money in 2008 to.........Obama. #2 was Hillary.
#3 was McCain.

The idea that major corporations are going to just climb into bed with one party and not get their hooks in everyone is laughably absurd propaganda.
Lefties NEVER let facts get in the way of a good populist story.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Obama hasn't even began to campaign, do you have any proof of this? or is this just more fabricated ultra-right wing lies? I'll wait,...
Here, you don't have to wait very long.....

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President Obama Thursday night will attend his 100th re-election fundraiser during a visit to New York City that’s expected to raise at least $5.1 million for the 2012 campaign.

It also marks an effort by Obama to rekindle his relationship with donors in the financial sector who were among his most generous backers in 2008 but have not yet matched that level of support. He raised nearly $16 million from contributors in the securities and investment business in 2008, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, but only $2.3 million so far this cycle.
Note TempesT68, this fundraiser took place last month and notice it was his 100th for the 2012 election... You really should watch something other than MSNBC...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ork-city-haul/

The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - Campaign Finance - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com

Banking on Becoming President | OpenSecrets

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...gn-rainmakers/

Lets see how obama cheats on campaign contributions as well:

Obama Campaign Not Using Verification System | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

obama has been fundraising and campaigning from the day he took office....

It could be you just don't know the definition of fundraiser, perfectly normal for a progressive liberal:

fund-rais·er

noun
1. a person who solicits contributions or pledges.

2. a gathering held for such solicitation: a fund-raiser to aid the campaign of the Senate candidate.

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Old 05-02-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Obama hasn't even began to campaign, do you have any proof of this? or is this just more fabricated ultra-right wing lies? I'll wait,...
Barack "Milhous" Obama has out campaigned all presidents from Reagan to GW Bush... combined

Obama has held more fundraisers than previous five Presidents combined

Barack Obama has already held more re-election fundraising events than every elected president since Richard Nixon combined, according to figures to be published in a new book.

Obama is also the only president in the past 35 years to visit every electoral battleground state in his first year of office.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Do you really think they are going to quit selling oil and gas if they have to pay a few billion more in taxes?
No because they will just raise the cost of the fuel to maintain their profit margin which I might add is already quite small, you'll just be putting more money into Uncle Sam's profit. It's really a simple concept to understand. When you ask for new taxes on business what you're really asking for is taxes on yourself.
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