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Old 05-02-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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No because they will just raise the cost of the fuel to maintain their profit margin which I might add is already quite small, you'll just be putting more money into Uncle Sam's profit. It's really a simple concept to understand. When you ask for new taxes on business what you're really asking for is taxes on yourself.
Everything is relative. I'm not holding my breath based upon empirical evidence.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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No because they will just raise the cost of the fuel to maintain their profit margin which I might add is already quite small, you'll just be putting more money into Uncle Sam's profit. It's really a simple concept to understand. When you ask for new taxes on business what you're really asking for is taxes on yourself.
Don't the oil companies wish they saw a profit per gallon like the government gets.... 18.4 cents per gallon.....

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According to NACS, in the United States, as of the beginning of 2011, the federal excise tax on gasoline was 18.4 cents per gallon.
http://www.bargaineering.com/article...ices-vary.html
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I think this is funny....Big Oil pretending that Obama has been bad for business when nothing could be further from the truth.
Can you explain how Obama has been friendly to Big Oil?


Here's Obamas Top Contributors:
University of California
$1,648,685

Goldman Sachs
$1,013,091

Harvard University
$878,164

Microsoft Corp
$852,167

Google Inc
$814,540

JPMorgan Chase & Co
$808,799

Citigroup Inc
$736,771

Time Warner
$624,618

Sidley Austin LLP
$600,298

Stanford University
$595,716

National Amusements Inc
$563,798

WilmerHale LLP
$550,668

Columbia University
$547,852

Skadden, Arps et al
$543,539

UBS AG
$532,674

IBM Corp
$532,372

General Electric
$529,855

US Government
$513,308

Morgan Stanley
$512,232

Latham & Watkins
$503,295

Gee, I wonder why tuitions have skyrocketed and money remained cheap while bailing out the banks. Meanwhile, energy prices have doubled. Yep, it's great to have politicians (on both sides) who answer only to their masters, and their masters aren't the people.

This is from the Canada Free Press:
In an effort to show voters that they’re “doing something” about high gas prices and the deficit, the Obama Administration has been touting its proposed 2013 budget plan as a way to close “tax breaks for Big Oil.” Yet in reality, the proposals amount to unfair soaking of deep pockets, and would actually lead to higher gasoline prices. If the Administration wants to bring in more revenue from the energy sector, while delivering relief to motorists, it would expedite the leasing of oil located on federal lands.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/45822

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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No because they will just raise the cost of the fuel to maintain their profit margin which I might add is already quite small, you'll just be putting more money into Uncle Sam's profit. It's really a simple concept to understand. When you ask for new taxes on business what you're really asking for is taxes on yourself.
They higher gas prices go the more viable the alternatives.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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They higher gas prices go the more viable the alternatives.
Is that why Obama got $450million in pledges from oil companies?
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Is that why Obama got $450million in pledges from oil companies?
Do you have a source? The fact is that 93% of all campaign contributions go to Republicans. See my previous cite.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Do you have a source? The fact is that 93% of all campaign contributions go to Republicans. See my previous cite.
I think I read it in a blog somewhere....which of course makes it true....which brings us to your $200million number.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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I think I read it in a blog somewhere....which of course makes it true....which brings us to your $200million number.
So you have no source? O.K. You were wrong. We can leave it at that. Do you deny that 93% of contributions from big oil goes to Republicans?
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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So you have no source? O.K. You were wrong. We can leave it at that. Do you deny that 93% of contributions from big oil goes to Republicans?
No, I'm not wrong...I read it in a blog....just like you did.

Now since you started an entire thread based upon the premise....I clicked on the link and lo and behold....no sourcing of the $200million.

I haven't looked into your 93% link....I'm still working on establishing the credibility of the first post of the thread and since you won't produce....you're starting to dig into rock.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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No, I'm not wrong...I read it in a blog....just like you did.

Now since you started an entire thread based upon the premise....I clicked on the link and lo and behold....no sourcing of the $200million.

I haven't looked into your 93% link....I'm still working on establishing the credibility of the first post of the thread and since you won't produce....you're starting to dig into rock.
I sited a source you did not. If you don't want to look at the 93% link that is fine. I can also source open secrets. If you would like to remain willfully ignorant of the facts, that is your perogative.
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