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Old 05-02-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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After taking heat for shipping jobs to China and contracting to employers with questionable labor conditions, Apple (rather publicly) took credit for creating more than half a million jobs in the U.S.

514,000 to be exact.

That figure included nearly 50,000 employees in its retail network and its corporate headquarters, where products are designed.

But it also included FedEx and UPS employees who deliver its products and employees at Corning who make glass for iPads and iPhones.

So Apple basically counts anyone vaguely associated with the company or its products as a job that Apple created.

But what about the competitors Apple has bumped off in its relentless move to the top? What about the once-profitable markets, products, and companies it has destroyed? What happened to those jobs?

Business Insider analyzed data on Bloomberg, went through dozens of 10-Ks, and read through layoff announcements to see how Apple's peers have done.
What we found:

Apple has destroyed nearly as many jobs as it helped create, eliminating some 490,570 positions.
Click here to see the jobs that Apple has destroyed >


Apple Has Destroyed American Jobs - Business Insider
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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You can't blame Apple for eliminating the jobs of their competitors, that blame goes to those people that always have to buy the latest Apple product whether they need it or not.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Apple Has Destroyed 490,000 American Jobs
The march of progress eliminates jobs all the time.

[how many horse and buggy drivers are there these days?]
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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The march of progress eliminates jobs all the time.

[how many horse and buggy drivers are there these days?]
What you say is true, but I have a very uneasy feeling about "AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY IMPORTED FROM CHINA". How many more American jobs would they have created if they produced their products in the USA? But, an Apple CEO has stated that they will NEVER do any of the manufacturing in this country. I don't own an Apple, and I have no intention of ever buying one.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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What you say is true, but I have a very uneasy feeling about "AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY IMPORTED FROM CHINA". How many more American jobs would they have created if they produced their products in the USA? But, an Apple CEO has stated that they will NEVER do any of the manufacturing in this country. I don't own an Apple, and I have no intention of ever buying one.
Apple needs to maximize shareholder value, just like every other corp. Let the chips and jobs go where the aforementioned goal is best served. Its America's citizens job to be the place where they can maximize shareholder value.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT View Post
After taking heat for shipping jobs to China and contracting to employers with questionable labor conditions, Apple (rather publicly) took credit for creating more than half a million jobs in the U.S.

514,000 to be exact.

That figure included nearly 50,000 employees in its retail network and its corporate headquarters, where products are designed.

But it also included FedEx and UPS employees who deliver its products and employees at Corning who make glass for iPads and iPhones.

So Apple basically counts anyone vaguely associated with the company or its products as a job that Apple created.

But what about the competitors Apple has bumped off in its relentless move to the top? What about the once-profitable markets, products, and companies it has destroyed? What happened to those jobs?

Business Insider analyzed data on Bloomberg, went through dozens of 10-Ks, and read through layoff announcements to see how Apple's peers have done.
What we found:

Apple has destroyed nearly as many jobs as it helped create, eliminating some 490,570 positions.
Click here to see the jobs that Apple has destroyed >


Apple Has Destroyed American Jobs - Business Insider
I read or seen that, there were some other corp's also, that's part of the problem with the economy, of course it profits their stockholders so why should they care. IMO its wrong, an American company that takes jobs from Americans and pays slave wages to the other countries workers is something to be ashamed of. It wouldn't kill their profits to bring at least 1/2 the jobs home, which I doubt they ever will.

Its all greed, same as HP you can't talk to someone who speaks english that you can understand, some at HP freely admit the pay is way less than an American support center, millions of jobs lost here at home, offshore accounts, people just don't pay attention, keep buying the newest products, I'm sick of all of it.

Shameful wrong...but they could care less
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:41 AM
 
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Who cares ? Apple products are great. I love my IMac, my MacBookAir and my Ipad. Once you go MAC you never go back to Windows.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville/Afghanistan
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What you say is true, but I have a very uneasy feeling about "AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY IMPORTED FROM CHINA". How many more American jobs would they have created if they produced their products in the USA? But, an Apple CEO has stated that they will NEVER do any of the manufacturing in this country. I don't own an Apple, and I have no intention of ever buying one.
They'll never manufacture products in the US. It's too expensive and would drastically raise the price of their products in order to pay people in America more than they pay them in China.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:08 AM
 
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Its America's citizens job to be the place where they can maximize shareholder value.
Where in the constitution does it state that? That's another country you're talking about.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:10 AM
 
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I read or seen that, there were some other corp's also, that's part of the problem with the economy, of course it profits their stockholders so why should they care. IMO its wrong, an American company that takes jobs from Americans and pays slave wages to the other countries workers is something to be ashamed of. It wouldn't kill their profits to bring at least 1/2 the jobs home, which I doubt they ever will.

Its all greed, same as HP you can't talk to someone who speaks english that you can understand, some at HP freely admit the pay is way less than an American support center, millions of jobs lost here at home, offshore accounts, people just don't pay attention, keep buying the newest products, I'm sick of all of it.

Shameful wrong...but they could care less
It's against the law to fiscally protect ourselves as a nation. Haven't you heard?
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