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View Poll Results: Democrats Should Condemn MoveOn
Yes 19 43.18%
No 24 54.55%
Not Sure 1 2.27%
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Why did 23 U.S. Democrat Senators disagree with you...?

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Move On asks questions. I want answers. I don't care who gets their feathers ruffled. No authority is sacred if it lies to me. No one should condemn a group for asking questions, or has it now become acceptable to taze someone who speaks up?

Thanks for yet another thread that further divides and erodes our country. I guess everyone should just sit still and have reality dictated to them by 'authority figures' with medals on their chests. Anyone ever think for themselves?
Why did 23 U.S. Democrat Senators disagree with you...?
Do you think they are trying to divide our nation?

"No one should condemn a group for asking questions, or has it now become acceptable to taze someone who speaks up?" I love speaking up also. It's fun!

"Thanks for yet another thread that further divides and erodes our country."
Are you saying that I should not have brought this thread up? But isn't that trying to keep me quiet...?

Do you think this forum's moderator should taze me or just ban me?
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Default Below are the 25 Senators who support MoveOn.

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Former Mayor of New York City and Former U.S. Congressman (Democrat) Ed Koch made some nice comments on this subject. Ed Koch has always been a big Hillary Supporter. Read his comments and the comments of readers at:
DEMOCRATS SHOULD CONDEMN MOVEON
U.S. Senate Votes to Condemn MoveOn for Ad Attacking General Petraeus.
The measure passed in a 72-25 vote, with none of the Democratic presidential candidates supporting it.

Here is how the United States Senate Voted Against MoveOn: U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

Below are the 25 Senators who support MoveOn. Some of these listed below call themselves proud veterans.
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:36 AM
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The reason that Democrats and others should condemn MoveOn over the Betray Us ad is...

A. The organization made allegations concerning the veracity and integrity of General Petraeus' Congressional testimony that were untrue.

B. No one is alllowed to question the veracity or integrity of a high-ranking US military official, regardless of the nature of his testimony.
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I voted "yes', but only for the ad itself, not the entire organization.

I believe the self inflicted wound is fatal, and Moveon.org will become a non player in the election, as Democrats distance themselves from the organization. I believe "backdoor" request from the party will keep it from participation.
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I believe the self-inflicted wound of its continuing emphasis on form over substance and emotion over reason will be fatal to what little is left of the Republican Party. Look for it to fragment and go the way of the Whigs...
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I believe the self-inflicted wound of its continuing emphasis on form over substance and emotion over reason will be fatal to what little is left of the Republican Party. Look for it to fragment and go the way of the Whigs...
You're right. They should pursue substance like the democrats and spend their time on non-binding resolutions that they know in advance will not pass.
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You're right. They should pursue substance like the democrats and spend their time on non-binding resolutions that they know in advance will not pass.
That's your best example??? Wanna see some of mine???
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Lets condemn Fox news for their Nazi right wing reactionary propaganda.
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Lets condemn Fox news for their Nazi right wing reactionary propaganda.
Sure, that's an accurate comparison. Great point!
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Ugh, who cares. If you choose to be in a position of power, be prepared to get smeared. End of story.

What, is the military infallible? Is anyone who doesn't support a military leader automatically wrong? Unpatriotic? UnAmerican?

Why does brown-nosing authority seem to be THE hallmark requirement of being a "good American" to so many people? When did it start being like that, anyway?
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