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Old 05-08-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How do you equate closing tax loopholes with raising taxes? If they increased your income bracket, that's one thing. This is eliminating an unncessary deduction.

And I would much rather pay more, than have women's health funds be stolen.

There are many billions of dollars undoubtedly going to projects we don't need.

Let's start with the biggest of them all--our military.
Can those women use their methods of having a good time and feeling good and avoiding pregnancy manage to protect us from the War on Terror that Obama has declared over? I just wondered because many of the men in the military will have to go if we do what you howl about. Yes, we don't want our military women getting pregnant but those things were avoided for a long time before this year when that became an important part of the Democrat strategy to win votes.

Why do you left leaners continue to say that Republicans want to do away with the women's health funds when there aren't really any things like that in existence.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Why doesn't Congress just lift the bankruptcy exclusion for
student loans....
Oh wait, students aren't bankers.
Dems and Repubs don't a **** about student loans.
Both parties have allowed the bankruptcy exclusion for DECADES.
And the accumulation of interest onto principle.
Now, pretending they care.... what a crock.

YES!!! That is the entire crux of the scam. The banks, the secondary lendors, the collection agencies, the colleges and the government are all in bed together on this forced slavery. Get a student loan, get educated, become a slave when you miss payments because you didn't get a job (as promised.) People in their retirement age are still paying student loans. Low interest rates become 200-300% nighmares after all the fee's and charges are added on. The government can lien their social security payments.

Isn't that just wonderful
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That was no "Student Loan Bill" people. That student loan stuff WAS TACKED ONTO ANOTHER BILL.

From the OP link:

"..require some privately owned companies to pay higher payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare."
The sad part of all this is that THEY refuse to see that this is a raising of taxes and that makes it an obvious task of the House. Ain't it fun?
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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There have been lots of court challenges dealing specificially with revenue increases and where those bills originated.

Its very simple, the Senate is proposing closing loopholes, which raises revenues, but ALL raising revenue bills MUST originate in the House. Thats where the Senate is proposing getting the money from to respend.
It's a technicality--that's why I'm asking. Is closing a loophole legally considered "raising revenue."

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My sides an idiot, but not me? haha.. yeah, ok..
You just haven't said anything so far to support you being an idiot--at least not in this thread.

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Well its a very specific stupid move by the Democratic Senate, to propose a bill known to be illegal, and the only reason they would do that is because they have no intention of passing any bill, and they just want "votes" from people who dont know any better. Hey, it might sound good, but if its illegal, its bs..
I'm sure it's not the first or last time the Senate try to throw a political football like that.

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Can those women use their methods of having a good time and feeling good and avoiding pregnancy manage to protect us from the War on Terror that Obama has declared over? I just wondered because many of the men in the military will have to go if we do what you howl about. Yes, we don't want our military women getting pregnant but those things were avoided for a long time before this year when that became an important part of the Democrat strategy to win votes.

Why do you left leaners continue to say that Republicans want to do away with the women's health funds when there aren't really any things like that in existence.
There is nothing like women's health funds? That's explicitly what's being offered to pay for the interest decrease--the proverbial sacrificing of a virgin to keep the Tax God Norquist pleased.

And Roy, there are billions in the military that can be excised. We're dumping money into programs we don't need or use and will never help with the abstract war on terror. What's a stealth missile-cruise going to do for us against a landlocked nation? I mean, surely such a fiscal conservative such as your self sees the need to cut worthless programs from the military, to slice away at the waste of the defense industry.

Or is the military the only thing in Washington that has their **** together?
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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It's a technicality--that's why I'm asking. Is closing a loophole legally considered "raising revenue."
Its not a technicality, yes, closing a loophole is considered raising revenues, which is why the Senate is able to spend the money generated.
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I'm sure it's not the first or last time the Senate try to throw a political football like that.
The Senate wll be doing lots of throwing the football around between now and election day. The issue is, will Democrats stand there and blame the GOP for Democrats wanting to pass illegal bills that are impossible to pass into law? You betcha.. Obamas on a roll with the non stop blame game..

Dont reward stupidity by defending its actions.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:16 PM
 
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Its not a technicality, yes, closing a loophole is considered raising revenues, which is why the Senate is able to spend the money generated.

The Senate wll be doing lots of throwing the football around between now and election day. The issue is, will Democrats stand there and blame the GOP for Democrats wanting to pass illegal bills that are impossible to pass into law? You betcha.. Obamas on a roll with the non stop blame game..

Dont reward stupidity by defending its actions.
I wouldn't call funding education stupidity.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:21 PM
 
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This thread and the linked story are LIES.

The republicans have passed a bill in the house and are ready to vote on such a measure in the Senate.

Democrats are using false tactics to make sure nothing happens here so they can keep a wedge issue alive.

democrats are lying about this.
It's what they do. No wonder America hates the left.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I wouldn't call funding education stupidity.
Would you call funding stadiums, spas, climbing walls, and chef prepared food... stupidity? Colleges have become resorts more than learning centers. Kids are on Spring break for four years and we wonder why our productivity sucks? No wonder socialism is so popular with students, who wants to work after that.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:00 AM
 
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This is quite disgusting the GOP scumbags would rather screw over hard working students, in favor to protect the rich.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:57 AM
 
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I wouldn't call funding education stupidity.
This has nothing to do with funding education
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