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Old 05-14-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Close relative marriage has a legally convincing argument for why it should be banned.
Which arguments are they?

 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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many people lost their job for following they're religion and you bgiots are happy.

this country was founded on Religious liberty not homo "rights" and when even they're is a conflict between the 2 which one do you think the founders would have gone with?

the reason liberals are in favor of homo "rights" is because they despise freedom of religion. and much like Marx think it's the opium of the masses.
Whatever is the standard norms for a civil and free society, the libs are opposed to. Marriage is just the next thing they are tearing apart. I don't know if it's intentional or not. But their liberal welfare programs have done wonders to destroy black families. It's very said, we have lost entire generations of black families.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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do you know anything about the case in question?
Marriage and Procreation was linked for a reason.
They were not linked at all. Do you know anything about the English language?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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So - are you able to cite any law that is currently in effect in the United States of America that establishes a religion?
Would you be okay with a law being passed that was influenced by Islam? Hinduism? Get what I'm saying? Probably not......
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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many people lost their job for following they're religion and you bgiots are happy.

this country was founded on Religious liberty not homo "rights" and when even they're is a conflict between the 2 which one do you think the founders would have gone with?

the reason liberals are in favor of homo "rights" is because they despise freedom of religion. and much like Marx think it's the opium of the masses.
''Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.''

''When there is state there can be no freedom, but when there is freedom there will be no state.''

''A lie told often enough becomes the truth.''

''The goal of socialism is communism.''
Vladimir Lenin


''Print is the sharpest and the strongest weapon of our party.''
Joseph Stalin
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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How on Earth did you arrive at that conclusion? In case it's evaded your attention, the debate is about changing the marriage laws.

Or is there some sort of underground gay marriage movement doing drive-by ceremonies that I'm not aware of?
The poster I was responding to was citing law as something that we should respect. I just wondered why the poster rejected current law in most U.S. states.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:25 PM
 
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Murder and theft to start with.
Nope, they predate Judeo-Christianity. Most societies throughout human history have had those laws. A completely secular, atheist society would have the same laws. They are required for any civilized nation to function.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Regardless of your opinion of religious ideas, where do you find any support for your idea that religious beliefs should not influence laws?
The morals and ethics of religion have always influenced legislators. We just don't want our laws forced to follow religious doctrine.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:25 PM
 
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And, (in the california case) in some cases the laws went strictly against what the people voted for.
Which is precisely why civil rights should never bu subject to popular vote.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Would you be okay with a law being passed that was influenced by Islam? Hinduism? Get what I'm saying? Probably not......
Why not? If the majority of people voted to enact such a law - then it is the law. And why are you making assumptions about what I believe?
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