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Old 05-14-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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That happens.

I'm not even six months into my job, and my job description has already changed. If I didn't like it, I would have moved on.

Simple.
but your doing so knowing in the favor of rights is bigoted non the less.

if gays were half way decent people (an oxymoron if there ever was one) they would pay they're salary till they found a new job.

 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: WA
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and if I fire a gay for coming out that's the chance he took.
Any other illegal activities you'd like to publicly admit to? Do you abduct children too? Run over your neighbor's dogs? Take the HOV lane in a single occupancy vehicle?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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Can you cite polls that show that any current majority supports any of the extreme positions you just cited?
Irrelevant. You just got done saying that any law that passes a popular vote ought stand. I'm asking you to defend that with some unlikely, but not impossible, laws that might, under the right (or wrong) circumstances pass that test.

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And would you care to deny that you would be in favor of a direct democratic vote that decided homosexual marriage is legal?
Yes, I am opposed to civil rights being put to a vote.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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and if I fire a gay for coming out that's the chance he took.
The job requirements changed due to his coming out? No? Then there's no equivalency. New to this "logic" thing?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:20 PM
 
Location: WA
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A society that allows its population to practice homosexual sex is going to last for very long?

Sheep seem to be doing ok. Dolphins would be too, if we didn't enjoy killing them for fun.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Any other illegal activities you'd like to publicly admit to? Do you abduct children too? Run over your neighbor's dogs? Take the HOV lane in a single occupancy vehicle?
I never had a gay employ.
depending on what job it was would depend if I would fire them
for example if they were around kids I would fire them in a incident.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Sorry, but that's just silly. Civil servants work by the rules, they don't make them. You might as well insist on reinstating prohibition on the grounds that LDS civil servants can't be tasked with handling liquor permits.
I can't find anything in the Constitution that prevents a city, county, or state from refusing to issue liquor permits. Are you unfamiliar with the term "dry county".
Dry county - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I'm not perceiving anything. Among over 1500 posts, you've proven you are unwilling to consider anything anyone else who doesn't support your views says.

This isn't speculation. I know you're not open to doing so. You've shown us that in this thread quite emphatically.
You have demonstrated the same unwillingness.

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Old 05-14-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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why was it fundamentally immoral?
It's not.

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just like they're reason is irrelevant to you, so to would yours be to societies in a generation.
"Their" reason is absolutely irrelevant to me, for they were wrong and misguided. I would be quite shocked if society ever reaches a point that informed consent isn't a fundamental requirement for marriage.

There is no other contract in all of law which does not.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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California has a unique legislation process that allows the people to pass laws over the legislature. However, it's still bound by scrutiny by the Court system. The United States, and most individual states, does not have California's proposition system.

No, actually Federal law trumps state law. State law only gets deference if it's something not addressed in any Federal law (which includes more than the Us Constitution).

As an example, voting is not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. However, the Constitution and Supreme Court have stated there are certain conditions of who the states may ban from voting and who they may not. So long as the States don't violate the Constitution or Supreme Courts ruling, they may set the requirements for their voting systems.

Supreme Court decisions trump State law.
Read the 10th Amendment.
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