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Old 05-10-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm hearing a lot of blacks saying they're going to stay home on election day because of this. They're not going to vote for Romney, but they're not voting for Obama either.
I'm hearing some murmurs as well not sure how extensive it will be though. Also the election is 6 months away so the issue may fade to the background.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yea...but i'll let a link do it for me.

Are Black People Too Religious?

One of the worst things to ever befall the AA community was our embrace of American style Judeo-Christian religion. Not that we had much choice at the time, but i wish we'd throw that damn yoke off. It's been a disaster and of no benefit to us for the most part.
You act as if it's just Christians are against homosexuality. The religions that the Africans had before coming to America also condemned homosexuality. Heck if African Americans were mostly Muslims today they would support the death penalty merely for folks committing a gay act.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I'm hearing some murmurs as well not sure how extensive it will be though. Also the election is 6 months away so the issue may fade to the background.
I believe it, maybe some of them are starting to wise up and get off the liberal plantation and starting to think for themselves and quit letting democrats tell them how to think.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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You act as if it's just Christians are against homosexuality. The religions that the Africans had before coming to America also condemned homosexuality. Heck if African Americans were mostly Muslims today they would support the death penalty merely for folks committing a gay act.
Lol, 100% right. People always criticize Christians, but don't dare say anything about Muslims.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I believe it, maybe some of them are starting to wise up and get off the liberal plantation and starting to think for themselves and quit letting democrats tell them how to think.
The liberal plantation drivel is played out. Blacks aren't letting Democrats telling them how to think. It just serves your purpose to believe that. That lame attempt at reverse psychology to get some black Republican converts isn't going to work.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Still doesn't mean that black people owe gays their allegiance. I'm sick of different groups using us for their gain. Then, when it turns out some of us don't support them, they talk ish about us.
For one: let's agree that a sufficient majority of African American voters oppose gay rights that we can, for the sake of argument, refer to "the African American" vote without regard to the supportive minority that we all know exists, agreed?

For two: if gays have, as a rule, always come to the aid of African Americans, you believe that African Americans don't owe the gay community reciprocal support?

Three: you didn't address my point that states that an African American person refusing to support gays is ideologically absurd.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Did you look to see what the other minority groups in North Carolina did, or is it only important to continue to obsess over what black folks are doing? Anything to charge blacks with bigotry so as to make you feel justified about your own feelings.

I swear, it's amazing how many productive hours you guys spend obsessing over the lives of blacks even down to how they vote. Don't you have anything else to do?

And yes...blacks are still gonna vote for Obama.
Most of them probably don't even associate with black people on a personal level. Yet they sit back, form their own biased opinion about an entire race of people based on images portrayed by rappers, Al, Jesse and what the media tells them. In reality I doubt that any of the flaming racists on this forum have ever taken the time to get to know those of us whose lifestyles are by far less dysfunctional than their own.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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For one: let's agree that a sufficient majority of African American voters oppose gay rights that we can, for the sake of argument, refer to "the African American" vote without regard to the supportive minority that we all know exists, agreed?
Fair enough, I don't know why folks get tripped up with the exceptions to the rules.

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For two: if gays have, as a rule, always come to the aid of African Americans, you believe that African Americans don't owe the gay community reciprocal support?
I'm not familiar with gays coming to any aid of African Americans in any meaningful way. Considering that homosexuality was illegal during the Civil Rights Era this aid would have been difficult.

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Three: you didn't address my point that states that an African American person refusing to support gays is ideologically absurd.
How so? So because African Americans were discriminated against they should support policies that directly contradict their religious beliefs? Now that's absurd.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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Fair enough, I don't know why folks get tripped up with the exceptions to the rules.



I'm not familiar with gays coming to any aid of African Americans in any meaningful way. Considering that homosexuality was illegal during the Civil Rights Era this aid would have been difficult.



How so? So because African Americans were discriminated against they should support policies that directly contradict their religious beliefs? Now that's absurd.
Valid points, excellent post
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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How so? So because African Americans were discriminated against they should support policies that directly contradict their religious beliefs? Now that's absurd. yuck, yuck, yuck. Hee haw!
Fixed. Would you like to make snide comments that reveal ones stupidity, or would you like to have an entertaining troll session?

As previously stated, the absurdity is having a goal but maintaining values that serve to prevent the accomplishment of that goal.

Serving ones self-interest is a tenet of Christianity. Assisting gays in their efforts to attain equality serves the intersts of African Americans. Therefore, supporting gays is not contradictory to the religious beliefs of Christians.


I'll return for number two when this one is finished.
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