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Old 05-11-2012, 12:16 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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Apart from seminaries, I didn't know that an all-male college still existed in California. Good for them! Single-sex education has tremendous advantages, especially for boys and men, and deserves to be revived.

Meanwhile, officials at Deep Springs College want to admit women, but two trustees are battling to maintain the tradition.

"The college was founded by banker and electric power pioneer Lucien Lucius Nunn as a place where young men could study and work hard away from the distractions of women and drinking. Deep Springs is a tuition-free two-year college from which many graduates transfer to Ivy League universities."
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:01 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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And here we have College of the Ozarks, a private, Christian, fully-accredited four year college now offering masters degrees which began as a high school in 1907. It's co-ed which works well and is also known as "Hard Work U." Admitting only students who live in the Ozasrks of MO, AR and OK, the students work on the campus in lieu of paying tuition thus learning trades as well as earning degrees. Single-sex (there's your obsession again) education isn't necessarily superior.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:58 AM
 
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Heh ... Yes, the sexual obsession of the OP is still going like the energizer bunny ... Pilgrim, do you know what happens when you put young men together away from the sexual distractions of women? Hint: their sexual drive doesn't disappear. They go out on the town to find release ... Deny them that and you have the kind of behaviors in the dorms that you call aberrant

Look at the resulting problems of sub-cultures that demand celibacy. You know perfectly well what happens. And you know what kind of reaction you are going to get here on this. Is there any doubt left in anyone's mind that you are simply trolling? You are doing more single-handedly to trash your own church's dogma, upon which you claim justification for your twisted interpretations, than all the non-believers who criticize it.

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Old 05-11-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Pilgrim knows nothing about Deep Spring college, he just found his article, of course lack of knowledge of his subject has never stopped him.

Deep Springs is a two year program, 26 students 8 professors. All students help run a cattle and alfalfa operation east of the White Mountain on the Nevada border in an isolated desert valley. The average SAT scores for students are higher than for any other school in the country. The students that come out of Deep Springs can write their ticket for any of the very top colleges in the country.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Pilgrim, do you know what happens when you put young men together away from the sexual distractions of women? Hint: their sexual drive doesn't disappear. They go out on the town to find release ... Deny them that and you have the kind of behaviors in the dorms that you call aberrant
Millions of American men have endured such conditions without resorting to aberrant behavior. Those experiences were called military service. Have always admired the concept of Deep Springs College. On two or three occasions have driven highway 168 and passed by it. East of the Owens Valley and just south of the White Mountains, it most surely is isolated. Going into town would mean Big Pine, and the "big city" would be Bishop. The students are required to work, and some of that work requires hard manual labor. For those not familiar with DSC, most of the students are very, very bright, and go on to attend prestigious universities. Do not really think that girl students would fit in, and my take on this is leave it like it is.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Millions of American men have endured such conditions without resorting to aberrant behavior. Those experiences were called military service. ..
Yes. As I said, as a consequence of "enduring" abstination, they then go out on the town to work off the built up tension. That is quite the military tradition. Stampede like animals when let loose. In fact, back in my days on liberty from Vietnam, in Japan and Philippines, there were semi-trucks pulling trailers, with barred window openings, referred to as "the cattle cars", filled to bursting with drunk sailors and Marines, some without their pants, back to ships and encampments and barracks from their nights in town. Shore Patrol would round them up and herd them into the trucks at the base gates.

There was plenty aberrant behavior in the military, too, btw. But I was speaking of what happens when there is a culture of celibacy being promoted. Which wasn't the service. Go back and read carefully and you'll see I was clear.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Millions of American men have endured such conditions without resorting to aberrant behavior
Blackshoe doesn't appear to have been concerned with the night time sheet lifters...

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Old 05-11-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Pilgrim knows nothing about Deep Spring college, he just found his article, of course lack of knowledge of his subject has never stopped him.
My nephew is a grad of Deep Springs. He went on to get his BA and JD from Yale.

It is a very... different college experience, the all-male aspect being one of the least meaningful parts of it. It also is a working ranch where the students also have to be cowboys, butchers, blacksmiths.... the works.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Pilgrim knows nothing about Deep Spring college, he just found his article, of course lack of knowledge of his subject has never stopped him.

Deep Springs is a two year program, 26 students 8 professors. All students help run a cattle and alfalfa operation east of the White Mountain on the Nevada border in an isolated desert valley. The average SAT scores for students are higher than for any other school in the country. The students that come out of Deep Springs can write their ticket for any of the very top colleges in the country.
26 students? There should be some other name applied for that besides "college".

what sort of enterprise would only aim to educate 26 students?
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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26 students? There should be some other name applied for that besides "college".

what sort of enterprise would only aim to educate 26 students?
An amazing one.
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