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Old 05-11-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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It's the same way all the ranters and ravers who scream about evil oil are all invested in exxon etc. It's not what you do it's what the sheep think you do.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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JPM has a corner on the unemployment, food stamps and welfare market with their "debit cards".
Uncle Sam won't let them go under..not the House of Morgan.

JPM has TRILLIONS in derivatives.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:05 PM
 
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You can't bail it out. I do believe more will follow. Eventually reality catches up to everyone. Can get quite interesting.

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Old 05-11-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And the Frank-Dodd act doesn't go into effect until July 2012. They gave the banks time to "get their act together"..LOL. Is this how they did it ?

Over $200 trillion in derivatives folks.....JPM is but the tip of the iceberg.

Banks Amass $211 Trillion In Derivatives, JP Morgan Loses $2 Billion And Volcher Rule Debates Continue | Problem Bank List
As of December 31, 2011, the 7 largest banks in the country held an astonishing $211.2 trillion in derivative contracts.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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This is going to be as interesting as watching an avalanche wiping out an alpine valley. Here comes trouble and there is no place to run. At least this will take the big boys down with the rest of us.

Anybody know where to hide 200 TRILLION dollars of funny money that has NO intrinsic value? oops.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is going to be as interesting as watching an avalanche wiping out an alpine valley. Here comes trouble and there is no place to run. At least this will take the big boys down with the rest of us.

Anybody know where to hide 200 TRILLION dollars of funny money that has NO intrinsic value? oops.

Well the Fed thinks holding companies (FDIC insured of course) are the answer. That's what they told BofA to do with their derivatives. Like hiding an elephant under a napkin The FDIC objected but the derivatives got moved.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is this a future Black Swan event? Zerohedge is reporting they could lose up to $20 Billion on this mistake. They are trapped in an illiquid investment which they have almost no way to close. The media is not reporting this correctly, IMHO. They are stating it's a $2 Billion loss...uhh, technically this could be an UNLIMITED potential loss!! Very irresponsible by the MSM.
A net $1Bln loss...LAST QUARTER! This is indeed only the opening page to this play.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Moral Hazard. JPM doesn't need to worry about risk because the Fed is right there, ready to bail them out. Just wait and see. It might not hit the MSM but there are enough Fed programs running that JPM will get bailout money.
They may get some, but more than likely not enough to save their London operation or most of JPM's US HQ including Dimon. The example being...you don't burn bridges, and that pay back is indeed a b*tch.

Dimon has demonized both Bernanke and President Obama. With DaintyDimon's job hanging in the wind, don't be surprised if his job and pension/golden parachute is the "collateral" used to obtain JPM "equity injections".

As it should be.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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Is this a future Black Swan event? Zerohedge is reporting they could lose up to $20 Billion on this mistake. They are trapped in an illiquid investment which they have almost no way to close. The media is not reporting this correctly, IMHO. They are stating it's a $2 Billion loss...uhh, technically this could be an UNLIMITED potential loss!! Very irresponsible by the MSM.
It doesn't matter. We will bail them out. Again. And yes, Romney or Obama. It doesn't matter.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well the Fed thinks holding companies (FDIC insured of course) are the answer. That's what they told BofA to do with their derivatives. Like hiding an elephant under a napkin The FDIC objected but the derivatives got moved.

And just wait till Moody's (who's still corrupt) downgrades BoA from A2 to Baa2. BoA will have to put up another $6Bln in "collateral" to protect the FDIC assets.
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