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Old 05-11-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Redundant force is a good thing.

As mentioned the difference in the number of bullets fired is not comparable considering the number of police and population in Germany vs USA.

Let's compare weapons used, oops, that info not available?

Nice try though.

Who knows how the # of shots fired is calculated. You would be surprised how different categories are defined whether it be with health organizations or politics. Your head would spin at the lack of equvilency buried when common use terms are provided.

Not all cops should have firearms as there are many duuufs on the force though less than those walking on tthe street. like the cop that shot the deer in the brain and said it would take a few minutes to die. I suggested he try again as that was the jaw not the brain. but I'm sure that was an exception.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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I also willing to bet that if a cop in Germany says to stop doing something, those people will stop doing it, who ever the person is.

Unlike here in the states where it's all about being cool in front of your friends...and the more times you go to jail the better reputation you have.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The culture is entirely different over there.

We have 300 million people, they have 80 million.

Their gun regulations are very strict, ours are not.

To own a gun in Germany you have to have a registration for every firearm you own and license. They also don't have the violence that we have.

In Austria you have to pass a psychological examination, how many Americans would submit to that, it's not required for gun ownership in the USA.

The culture is not similar to American society.
The Germans don't have the violence we do but in the mid-50s they surely did when any of the new German soldiers showed up in public dressed in their new uniforms. I got in more than one fight with large groups of them beating the hell out of their soldiers in uniform.

Why did they do that? Well for 10 years the US Army protected the from all their enemies and they didn't want to be armed again. They loved us and hated their own.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Would be interesting to see the training it takes to become a cop over there compared to the US
You sound like you are all for 1968 all over again. Back then revolutionaries spent a lot of time talking about the lack of training and education of all our police forces and I considered them totally wrong. I still do.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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There is no Constitutionally affirmed right to bear arms in Germany either is there?

Think it was a guy from the National Socialist Party with a funny mustache who wrote Mein Kampf and liked to gas Jews to death in concentration camps.

Apparently the OP supports such actions.
I think that some in our little group sure do support that kind of activity.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Maybe they're just better shots?
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:12 PM
 
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This is incredible. U.S. law enforcement must have a lot to learn from the Germans.

World News - German police fired just 85 bullets total in 2011
LOL.... Get back to us with stats of gun crimes, murder rate in Germany versus USA.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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This is incredible. U.S. law enforcement must have a lot to learn from the Germans.

World News - German police fired just 85 bullets total in 2011
MAYBE, it's because the state of Texas is almost 2 times the size of Germany?
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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Yes, the police should call a truce and flip a coin to see who is going to shoot. They should take their time and have an in depth discussion and not do anything hasty, that way the bad guy would only have two or three holes in him, if he waits for them to finish their discussion.....
Use a little common sense, not that democrats ever have, and know if there are six cops on scene, all of them are going to shoot. I hear this same stupid outcry every time some scum gets riddled with holes.
Police are instructed to shoot for center mass, and shoot until the threat is gone.
That means lots of holes..! Most people who are in the police line of fire are in need of, and deserve lots of holes..!
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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MAYBE, it's because the state of Texas is almost 2 times the size of Germany?
Texas is larger than Germany by area, not in population.
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