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Old 05-12-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I never said they did,

But YOU WOULD THINK, given what they experienced the past 3-4 centuries, blacks would be more open-minded to the gay community and support their fight against the institutional prejudices they face.

Instead, I give the people of my race too much credit. And the sad part is they onlyblindly reference the bible when someone asks them why they're against gay marriage.
No you wouldn't lol. You aren't going to convince most blacks that there's any parallel.

To be 100% with you, most blacks that I know who are against homosexual relationships, never quote the bible. Most from what I can tell just find the idea repulsive, and not much else.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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No you wouldn't lol. You aren't going to convince most blacks that there's any parallel.

To be 100% with you, most blacks that I know who are against homosexual relationships, never quote the bible. Most from what I can tell most just find the idea repulsive, and not much else.
Whites thought it was repulsive to have blacks marry their children, for their children to have half-black kids, for a black man to be in the white house, for blacks to work with them, live in their neighborhoods, eat in their establishments, etc.

Did it make their prejudices, and the systems they put in place to assure blacks "stayed in their place" right?

It's a simple yes or no question.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I don't see it that way. From what I can tell is that it's constantly the left gay community that constantly attempts to hinge onto the backs of the "black struggle." Honestly, I haven't heard right-wing conservatives say a thing about blacks and gays being even remotely on the same team.
Well that's because you're highly prejudiced against left-wingers and gays. Simple. You can't see the truth, which is that social conservatives on this forum often try to silence people from expressing their thoughts on this issue. If anyone dares to mention gays and civil rights in the same sentence, right-wingers will bellow, "How DARE you try to make a comparison between gays and blacks!"

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The left showed it's true colors when Roseann Barr attempted to shame blacks on prop 8 in California.
LOL! So now Roseanne Barr represents all left-wingers?
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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It wouldn't surprise me.

It's funny of course how one race that's been discriminated against for centuries can have a strong prejudice for another group of minorities facing the same struggles they had to face.
Most of my dark skinned people are not comfortable with homosexuality, the reasons vary, but it is mostly because of Christian Churches they go to where they learn Jesus does not like it or something. White skin people don't seem to realize that quite a few dark skin people are really into the whole Jesus thing.

All people should see the homosexuality thing as not being their freaking business and they should get out of the way and let gay people get married. I can't believe that adults actually don't have something more important to do other than prevent gay people from getting married, but I guess it makes them feel powerful denying freedom to people.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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You suggested only ignorant black people without jobs who live in the ghetto would vote for Democrats. In addition, you also suggested these Black Democratic voters are also lazy racist criminals. It is clear you, like most conservatives do not think very highly of black people.
Those are exactly the type of racial insults and prejudices that Black conservatives must endure from their political brethren....and Republicans still don't understand why they don't get more of the Black vote.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Default Many blacks shrug off Obama's new view on gays

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Like many black Americans, Dorsey Jackson does not believe in gay marriage, but he wasn't disillusioned when Barack Obama became the first president to support it. The windows of his suburban Philadelphia barbershop still display an "Obama 2012" placard and another that reads "We've Got His Back."
Many blacks shrug off Obama's new view on gays - Boston.com

This will anger right-wingers. They'll insist that blacks should be angry at Obama for supporting same-sex marriage. Watch for indignant reactions and faux outrage.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Admittingly, considering OBama is about the only candidate that comes close to representing the political views and needs of the black community and he's the very first black president, it will take everything short of re-instituting slavery turn blacks off from him.

EDIT: Obama's well aware of this BTW.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Many blacks shrug off Obama's new view on gays - Boston.com

This will anger right-wingers. They'll insist that blacks should be angry at Obama for supporting same-sex marriage. Watch for indignant reactions and faux outrage.
I've consistently said not too many Blacks will switch their vote as a result of this issue. Obama is the 2nd coming to most Blacks, nothing short of him coming out as gay or being caught cheating on Michelle with a white woman will change that.

Even then he'd still probably get 50% of the Black vote.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Yeah, I had a feeling this one issue wouldn't automatically turn off the Black community. For one thing, there are many gay-Black people in this country - so I'd assume they don't hate his position, nor do many/most of their heterosexual loved ones. But no demographic has complete solidarity in their political views, so it's not like ALL people of any group will feel the same way about stuff.

Anyway, none of the Black people I know (which includes a few family members, friends, colleagues, and even the guy I'm dating) are against gay marriage - and AFAIK this announcement hasn't changed their opinion of Obama, whether it was good or bad to begin with. Is anyone really going to say "that's it, I'm voting for the other guy!" based on this issue alone?
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Whites thought it was repulsive to have blacks marry their children, for their children to have half-black kids, for a black man to be in the white house, for blacks to work with them, live in their neighborhoods, eat in their establishments, etc.

Did it make their prejudices, and the systems they put in place to assure blacks "stayed in their place" right?

It's a simple yes or no question.
Atleast finish your thought and the history lesson.

Whites (and I say that liberally) overwhelmingly came to the conclusion that blacks were pretty much just the same and/or entitled to pursue happiness as they see fit by attending the schools of their choice, eating in the restaurants of their choice, dating or marrying as they please, and even running for President should they choose to do so.

Most blacks from what I can tell simply see homosexuality as devient behavior, (by choice) and not much else. Some "behaviors" in society are simply unacceptable to folks. You aren't going to convince most folks that pedophilia should be a common acceptable practice anymore than you are going to convince a lot of blacks folks that homsexuality is.
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