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Old 05-12-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So... which one do you actually know nothing about? Obama or Marxism?
Nice try? What do you do when you find that the poster knows enough about both those things to make you look silly? I think I know about that one, too.
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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For one thing socialism is a broad term with several categories and branches such as communism. Secondly socialist ideas such as public schools, public roads, even public parks are seen as ideal for 95% or more of the country. If you mean a pure 100% socialist, you would see an america with no private businesses, property, food, everything is owned and maintained by the government usually in a monarchy or dictatorship. Last time I checked we have none of these and we live in a democracy where elected officials can be voted out of office. The fact that you say obama is a socialist and a marxist shows how much you know about the subject matter. With that said I will say you are uninformed and you also lack information.
You really seem to know a lot about both those subjects but never seem to want to share you knowledge about them. For instance, can you fail to see that much of the part about private business is being taken away almost on a daily basis? If The One gets re-elected I wonder what new found liberty he will have to show the Russians he is really willing to go along with them. Please tell me about the Dictatorship of the Proletariat that Russians suffered under for 70 years and how hungry many of them got when they found that the government owned all the food along with property.

You can't see that direction being part of where we are headed but if you open your eyes you might.
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Straw man. This "description" belongs entirely to the right. I have never met a liberal who believed this or ever seen Obama described this way except by conservatives.


Two breathtakingly pathetic and trivial complaints. One would imagine if Obama was so bad, you could come up with something better than two slips of the tongue from years ago.


Talk about vacuous.
Yep, Obama and Biden have slips of the tongue but if one happens to be on the other side he spoke what he knew. Dude, do you see that you are trying too hard to do whatever you are trying to do? Why we all know that the 57 state "slip of the tongue" was made just under 4 years ago.
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Highest production since 2003 does not equate to "not allowing the energy development of oil in the country".

Federal report: U.S. oil imports down, domestic production highest since 2003 - Los Angeles Times

U.S. crude oil production increased by an estimated 120,000 barrels a day last year over 2010, the report says. Current production, about 5.6 million barrels a day, is the highest since 2003.
The U.S. has been the world’s largest producer of natural gas since 2009, the report says. Use of renewable sources of energy, such as wind and solar, is still relatively small but has doubled since 2008.
Now it may be time for you to talk about how much of that increased production has been done on federal controlled land, and not privately owned land. Of course, you do know that the really heavy preponderance of oil we know about in the western US just happens to be on federal lands and not one well has been drilled on any of it since Obama came into office.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Highest production since 2003 does not equate to "not allowing the energy development of oil in the country".

Federal report: U.S. oil imports down, domestic production highest since 2003 - Los Angeles Times

U.S. crude oil production increased by an estimated 120,000 barrels a day last year over 2010, the report says. Current production, about 5.6 million barrels a day, is the highest since 2003.
The U.S. has been the world’s largest producer of natural gas since 2009, the report says. Use of renewable sources of energy, such as wind and solar, is still relatively small but has doubled since 2008.
Give the real credit to whom it is due.. for todays production.. President Bush.. in future years because of Obama's policies , we will definitely have much higher gas prices in the future because of the lag on oil production permits going on now.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:25 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Give the real credit to whom it is due.. for todays production.. President Bush.. in future years because of Obama's policies , we will definitely have much higher gas prices in the future because of the lag on oil production permits going on now.
Oh, no you don't! If Bush can't be blamed for anything that has happened since Obama's inauguration, and that's been the RW mantra since 12:05 PM Jan. 20, 2009, he can't be given for credit for anything that has happened since then, either.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Ok, where is the stretch?.. Obama is a marxist, he acts like one, talks like one and is one. What is the big deal admitting to what he is. We know he is a socialist and we know he is a marxist.. and now we know Obama has been one for a very long time.
You seriously think that Obama wants to abolish all private property and collectivize it under state-run enterprises?
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Now it may be time for you to talk about how much of that increased production has been done on federal controlled land, and not privately owned land. Of course, you do know that the really heavy preponderance of oil we know about in the western US just happens to be on federal lands and not one well has been drilled on any of it since Obama came into office.
The BLM statistics indicate that each year of the Obama Administration over 3000 wells were started on Federal Land.

Table09

And the number of producing wells on Federal Land has increased to 90,000

Table10
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:23 AM
 
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I would just like to see some of his transcripts, academic work and some pictures, interviews with real srudents who shared a class with him.

Not much to ask, why the big secret? Media better get to work....
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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And you crazed righties will believe anything.

No matter how blindingly idiotic.
Another member of the "CULT" heard from.
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