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Old 05-13-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Houston
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As for California and Reagan, he is largely responsible for the problems that state has experienced. Pandering to the rich at the expense of the common worker, they've driven up housing, keeping the property taxes low, and gutting the services to the people that perform most of the work for too little pay.
Newsflash:

It has been almost 50 years since Reagan was governor of California.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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14 of the 24 urban areas with the lowest unemployment are cities which are benefiting from the current oil patch hiring boom.

Drilling activity is the highest in decades, the number of rigs working is the most in about 40 years, production is up and increasing, new fields are being discovered, off-shore fields (including deep water) are open for business again and the US is now a net exporter of refined products.

All of this has happened on Obama's watch. Will he credit for it here? Naw...not a chance.
Private land, not govt-----that's why.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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And another thing: Wait until the RED states stop getting so much largess from the Federal Government in the form of military spending, bridges to nowhere and farm programs. Then we will see what REAL unemployment looks like.
Fine by me, just end allot those federal regulations and welfare while we're at it.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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Newsflash:

It has been almost 50 years since Reagan was governor of California.
LOL, the poster prob. Thinks Ronnie was the reason for homeless on the streets.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Private land, not govt-----that's why.

So?
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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As another poster said, when 14 of the 16 worst areas of unemployment come from one particular state, it maybe, just might be a subtle, telltale indicator.

It is true that there is such a thing as oversimplification; it's equally true that there is such a thing as overcomplication. We all have seen the prof who throws up castles of complexities to try to persuade us that up is down and down is up.

Remember Orwells line: "You must be an intellectual. Only an intellectual could say something so stupid."
It does. The housing and construction industry was a very large employer here. It also could mean the state was a popular destination for the unemployed who, when they got there, still couldn't find a job.

[2 + 2 = 5]
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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It does. The housing and construction industry was a very large employer here. It also could mean the state was a popular destination for the unemployed who, when they got there, still couldn't find a job.

[2 + 2 = 5]
Used to be that only wannabe actors and actresses showed up here. And what goes for them goes for everybody else. This is California. Lots of people want to live here. Not everybody can live here (although traffic makes it look like everybody does). Therefore, if you don't have a good resume, don't bother showing up here. Get some experience and then come.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Used to be that only wannabe actors and actresses showed up here. And what goes for them goes for everybody else. This is California. Lots of people want to live here. Not everybody can live here (although traffic makes it look like everybody does). Therefore, if you don't have a good resume, don't bother showing up here. Get some experience and then come.
Agreed. But not everyone will heed that advice and until they do, the unemployment rate will reflect that.

[red state vs. blue state has nothing to do with it]
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As another poster said, when 14 of the 16 worst areas of unemployment come from one particular state, it maybe, just might be a subtle, telltale indicator.

It is true that there is such a thing as oversimplification; it's equally true that there is such a thing as overcomplication. We all have seen the prof who throws up castles of complexities to try to persuade us that up is down and down is up.

Remember Orwells line: "You must be an intellectual. Only an intellectual could say something so stupid."
Maybe, but it can just appear together. Especially when your sample size is one month with zero history.

Reading ability and knowledge appear strongly with shoe size, but it doesn't mean people with bigger feet are smarter and better readers. You can look up why the correlation is very wrong. It will help you learn about basic statistics.

Some things might be overly complicated, but it doesn't mean everything that is complicated (or that you cannot understand) is wrong. I addressed at a very basic level many points why such a gross oversimplification is wrong. So far you have addressed nothing outside of stating your own inability to understand even what you are saying.

I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

I think Wayne Dyer applies more: "The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Maybe, but it can just appear together. Especially when your sample size is one month with zero history.

Reading ability and knowledge appear strongly with shoe size, but it doesn't mean people with bigger feet are smarter and better readers. You can look up why the correlation is very wrong. It will help you learn about basic statistics.

Some things might be overly complicated, but it doesn't mean everything that is complicated (or that you cannot understand) is wrong. I addressed at a very basic level many points why such a gross oversimplification is wrong. So far you have addressed nothing outside of stating your own inability to understand even what you are saying.

I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

I think Wayne Dyer applies more: "The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."
Condescension does not an argument make either. So far all you've got is a)name-calling and b) condescension. I took classes in economics, math, econometrics and statistics at a Univ. that is ranked top 10 in the world in economics, and got mostly A's, albeit many years ago. So you can stow the 'call them stupid' condescension. Save it for one of your PDS threads.

So far you have failed to address in any way, "basic level" or otherwise, as to why deep blue, high tax California and New Jersey dominate the high unemployment list. Are there other factors? Obviously so. Energy is a huge factor in ND, obviously. That doesn't negate the overall trend that economically troubled states tend blue, and economically strong states tend red.
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