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Old 05-14-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Watch Fox with an open, critical mind and see if you don't see those things being done on daily or even hourly basis.
Daily or hourly on Fox? Watch MSNBC and see these things being done every minute. Except, of course, point #10, invoking Christianity. The liberal media scoffs at expressions of faith, and disparaging religion is part of their regimem.

 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
I can't speak for MSNBC, but I can see why you'd hate Jon Stewart and his audience.


First you prove that you don't understand rights.
Now, you're hell bent on proving that you believe rights are given to you. What can be given, can be taken away. No? And since you didn't respond to my question, here it is again: What can the government do to prevent you from voting?


Yeah, we should all stick with "TheBlaze" and like.


I wish it were only funny. But it isn't funny but very real. Why would a news network do this...


But when it comes to media, there couldn't be a bigger joke than pretty much anything American (except NPR/PBS).
I have told you what the government can do to keep us from voting and you owe me an apology for pointing out where in the Constitution we are given the right to vote for Congressmen. I will await your thanks for doing what you didn't seem to know how to do.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I have told you what the government can do to keep us from voting and you owe me an apology for pointing out where in the Constitution we are given the right to vote for Congressmen. I will await your thanks for doing what you didn't seem to know how to do.
No you haven't. For a change, think of yourself as a person, as opposed to always assuming a collective (which will apply to your far-fetched ideas/tin-foil hattery of a sample you presented).

Your right is your right. I say, voting is your right. Do you disagree?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Loyal audience such as yourself, have just provided why the second technique is so effective:
2. Character Assassination/Ad Hominem. Fox does not like to waste time debating the idea. Instead, they prefer a quicker route to dispensing with their opponents: go after the person's credibility, motives, intelligence, character, or, if necessary, sanity.




Well, your "love" for JS was visible in the very first post you recalled fond memories of him putting your favorite cast of characters in their place. And while you may have heard people associate "news" with Jon Stewart, in reality, you missed the point these people were making. But then, Fox News and its audience is pretty good at providing fodder for a smart/intelligent comedy show. Its not "news" when it is a practice being spelled out!
I guess your picture of the two Michelles is to bear out the thing you are talking about but somehow I can't hear what either of them is saying. Why is that?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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Watch MSNBC and see these things being done every minute.
You can't fairly compare MSNBC to FOX because MSNBC does not have a dedicated news show.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein.

So, you believe that government can prevent you from voting?
“The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are the constitutional rights secure.”

If you're going to quote Einstein, quote from his love of the US

For all you athiests using sciense as your religion:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” - Einsten

There are two ways to live: you can live as if nothing is a miracle; you can live as if everything is a miracle.” - Einstein

Today, science has lost the ability to acknowlege that miracles even exist.

A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -Einstein

Even he understood paying it forward, and not just what others could do for him.

An autocratic system of coercion, in my opinion, soon degenerates. For force always attracts men of low morality, and I believe it to be an invariable rule that tyrants of genius are succeeded by scoundrels. For this reason I have always been passionately opposed to systems such as we see in Italy and Russia to-day. - Albert Einstein

Replace 1949 Italy and Russia with today's oligarchy scoundrels. The US and Europe have become an oligarchy with the few in real power (rather than the one) playing both sides against each other's middle. Here we have liberals wanting to move toward a hybrid socio-capitalist government (the socialists sucking on capitalists like vampires until they have no more blood,) and conservatives fighting for their constitutional lives, and being called draconian for doing so.

These masters of the world are leading us to revolution, because chaos is a means to their end. That is what social equality really means. The masses are better off dead, so the hand picked few and their 500M slaves can settle into a world of their mold.

Any intelligent fool can call himself Einstein, but it takes a real fool to believe that he's a shadow of the genius who was Einstein.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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“The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are the constitutional rights secure.”

If you're going to quote Einstein, quote from his love of the US

For all you athiests using sciense as your religion:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” - Einsten

There are two ways to live: you can live as if nothing is a miracle; you can live as if everything is a miracle.” - Einstein

Today, science has lost the ability to acknowlege that miracles even exist.

A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -Einstein

Even he understood paying it forward, and not just what others could do for him.

An autocratic system of coercion, in my opinion, soon degenerates. For force always attracts men of low morality, and I believe it to be an invariable rule that tyrants of genius are succeeded by scoundrels. For this reason I have always been passionately opposed to systems such as we see in Italy and Russia to-day. - Albert Einstein

Replace 1949 Italy and Russia with today's oligarchy scoundrels. The US and Europe have become an oligarchy with the few in real power (rather than the one) playing both sides against each other's middle. Here we have liberals wanting to move toward a hybrid socio-capitalist government (the socialists sucking on capitalists like vampires until they have no more blood,) and conservatives fighting for their constitutional lives, and being called draconian for doing so.

These masters of the world are leading us to revolution, because chaos is a means to their end. That is what social equality really means. The masses are better off dead, so the hand picked few and their 500M slaves can settle into a world of their mold.

Any intelligent fool can call himself Einstein, but it takes a real fool to believe that he's a shadow of the genius who was Einstein.
Do you have a right to vote, or is it a privilege?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I see your posts, threads started by you everyday, Roy. Is that not enough? But, if you must talk about my sources... know that I get "my news" from Jon Stewart. How often do you watch him?

ONLY if you can handle it (for a little over 2 minutes)... Lord of the Rings - The Right Side of History
I never watch Stewart or his buddy. Are you suggesting that you get some of your "news" from Lord of the Rings? I have never watched that one, at all, not one of the many parts of it. Is that reason I don't know the Right Side of History? I guess I will just have to remain uninformed.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by steven_h View Post
“The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are the constitutional rights secure.”

If you're going to quote Einstein, quote from his love of the US

For all you athiests using sciense as your religion:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” - Einsten

There are two ways to live: you can live as if nothing is a miracle; you can live as if everything is a miracle.” - Einstein

Today, science has lost the ability to acknowlege that miracles even exist.

A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -Einstein

Even he understood paying it forward, and not just what others could do for him.

An autocratic system of coercion, in my opinion, soon degenerates. For force always attracts men of low morality, and I believe it to be an invariable rule that tyrants of genius are succeeded by scoundrels. For this reason I have always been passionately opposed to systems such as we see in Italy and Russia to-day. - Albert Einstein

Replace 1949 Italy and Russia with today's oligarchy scoundrels. The US and Europe have become an oligarchy with the few in real power (rather than the one) playing both sides against each other's middle. Here we have liberals wanting to move toward a hybrid socio-capitalist government (the socialists sucking on capitalists like vampires until they have no more blood,) and conservatives fighting for their constitutional lives, and being called draconian for doing so.

These masters of the world are leading us to revolution, because chaos is a means to their end. That is what social equality really means. The masses are better off dead, so the hand picked few and their 500M slaves can settle into a world of their mold.

Any intelligent fool can call himself Einstein, but it takes a real fool to believe that he's a shadow of the genius who was Einstein.
Do you have a right to vote, or is it a privilege?

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I guess your picture of the two Michelles is to bear out the thing you are talking about but somehow I can't hear what either of them is saying. Why is that?
You can't see?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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There is no such thing as "left leaning news source".
You seem be ignoring the other thread with my poll. Why is it you voted yes you can identify a liberal news organization which is contradictory to your position stated above.

My next question is why have you voted under both liberal and moderate?

Didn't know it was public vote did you?
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