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And why do I care what someone in Canada thinks, eh?
Other than Moosehead and Rush, I can't think of any viable reason to care whether Canada exists at all.
Why don't you ask about the type of tolerance practiced by the Muslims that are invading your country and your beloved Europe? What happens to homosexuals in that religion as a matter of doctrine?
Now....compare that to the "bigotry" that exists in the United States and get back to me.
Originally Posted by Harrier I have asked YOu at least twice(and i think - thrice) - when have I ever acted as a "bigot"? And if you are so "tolerant" then why do you not present youself that way?
Perhaps I have misunderstood you. Let me ask you, how do you feel about homosexuals? Do you think they are equal and should enjoy the rights that every other citizen has?
Aha - I understand that you condemn this particular lifestyle and that is your right. Do I assume correctly that part of this condemnation has to do with your religious faith?
You see, you don't have to endorse homosexuality at all. Granting equal rights simply means that you endorse the Constitution - even if doing so requires YOU to pay a price. Just like YOU pay a price when somebody offends you with their freedom of speech. It's part and parcel of living in a society that values freedom and equality. Being offended by somebody's existence (or perhaps, if you subscribe to that belief - his/her choices) does not warrant discrimination.
Even more, granting something positive to a group you really despise seems very much like the Christian idea of turning the other cheek to me.
EDIT: Perhaps you are not Christian at all. What do you base your condemnation on, then?
And why do I care what someone in Canada thinks, eh?
Other than Moosehead and Rush, I can't think of any viable reason to care whether Canada exists at all.
Why don't you ask about the type of tolerance practiced by the Muslims that are invading your country and your beloved Europe? What happens to homosexuals in that religion as a matter of doctrine?
Now....compare that to the "bigotry" that exists in the United States and get back to me.
Aha - I understand that you condemn this particular lifestyle and that is your right. Do I assume correctly that part of this condemnation has to do with your religious faith?
You see, you don't have to endorse homosexuality at all. Granting equal rights simply means that you endorse the Constitution - even if doing so requires YOU to pay a price. Just like YOU pay a price when somebody offends you with their freedom of speech. It's part and parcel of living in a society that values freedom and equality. Being offended by somebody's existence (or perhaps, if you subscribe to that belief - his/her choices) does not warrant discrimination.
Even more, granting something positive to a group you really despise seems very much like the Christian idea of turning the other cheek to me.
EDIT: Perhaps you are not Christian at all. What do you base your condemnation on, then?
I only condemn crybabies running around squealing, trying to somehow equate it to slavery, and prancing around demanding they deserve this and that.
As for the "lifestyle" you can go play with other folks body parts that defecate all you want but don't come around telling me it's normal behavior. It's not. Do it at home and take a shower afterwards and we're fine. Hell as long as you don't touch me we can be best friends. I don't want fecal matter all over me. That is what Jesus would tell you.
Well, it needs to evolve, as you are now falling behind of the rest of the western world.
One's rights are always at odds with the rights of other people.
For that specific reason, even those rights named in the Constitution are not absolute.
My right to speak freely does not give me the right to falsely accuse an innocent person of a crime or to sell the nation's secrets to a foreign power.
To undertake either of these activities would deprive others of their rights.
Largely because much has been done to right the wrongs done to true victim groups, continuing to stay politically relevant has become a challenge for the left.
As a result, the left in America has recently adopted homosexuals as a new victim group complete with all sorts of made up rights which they have allegedly been deprived of by imagined bigots.
This symbiotic relationship between homosexuals and liberals seems to make sense on some level until we start trying to apply equal qualifications to homosexuals as a victim group which would necessarily apply to other victim groups.
The most obvious problem is that unless one can think in such a way as to belong to a minority group, one must perform a voluntary act to be a homosexual.
Since no one may simply volunteer to be a member of a protected class, bestowing special rights on homosexuals becomes problematic.
Now along comes same-sex marriage.
Marriage in America has always been limited to two unrelated persons of the opposite sex.
States have historically applied other requirements, but at a minimum being unrelated and of opposite sexes has always applied.
Couples have entered into marriage with this stipulation in place such that their union is defined in law in a way which is acceptable to them.
What now gives homosexuals and their liberal friends the right to alter married couple's contracts after they have been signed by changing the legal definition of marriage?
Or another idea is that conservatives who are in favor of limited government and homophobic Christians (just the homophobic ones) should actually stop be contradictory and hypocritical in their messages. We should have personal freedoms, but the government should regulate the rights of a certain group of people. We should love your own neighbor, except if (s)he is homosexual.
Do you know anyone who is truly afraid of homosexuals?
I'm pushing 50 and I have yet to meet one of thes "homophobes" you refer to.
What rights have you been deprived of?
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