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Old 10-25-2008, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Sneek, Netherlands
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A far more efficient economic system is possible


Author: Bart klein Ikink


12 steps to freedom and wealth


Summary

We live in an economic system that is very inefficient. The consequences of these inefficiencies are clearly visible in the form of the credit crisis. Many companies will go bankrupt because of lack of demand, even though they make useful products. Many people will become unemployed, so demand falls back even further. Governments and central banks are intervening, which disturbs the functioning of markets. This enables inefficient companies to remain in business when they benefit from government intervention and the intervention in the financial system by central banks.

Now we are at the point that the authorities have taken over most banks. In the future the state will place banks under strict supervision, so that the state will decide who gets money and who does not. This is the global communist revolution of October 2008.

It is possible to achieve a much greater prosperity, with maximum capital growth without inflation, large debts, economic crises, unproductive government intervention and the unproductive part of the financial sector. Natural selection will ultimately determine the most efficient economic system, despite the political power structures that still exist at this moment. The investigation of alternatives and dissemination of knowledge will accelerate this process, but the ultimate outcome will not change. The most efficient economic system is, I believe, a variant of the economy of the natural order, which was first described by Silvio Gesell.

In this article I will show in 12 short steps how the economy of the natural order will work. Then I will give a real world example of the economy of the natural order, showing that it works as described. Then I will illustrate the strength of the economy of the natural order, using examples from history. On naturalmoney.org the theory is described in detail.

The charging of interest is the way to slavery. This is because people may be hoarding money for a rainy day. When more people do this simultaneously, money is removed from circulation, weakening the economy. When this happens, even more people will start hoarding money, because they expect times getting worse. This is the beginning of an economic crisis. Many people will lose their income, and if they do not have money, they must borrow money against interest for unavoidable expenses such as food. As a result, the situation becomes even worse.

Abolition of interest is the way to freedom. Free people are more productive than slaves. Abolition of interest will therefore lead to greater prosperity.


The 12 steps

1. Interest on money should be banned. This is the only prohibition. Return on capital is a good thing, and should not be abolished.

2. Raise a tax on money, for example, one percent per month. This is not a tax on wealth, so shares, real estate and money lent, are not taxed.

3. Do not print more money, so there will be no inflation.

4. Because there is a tax on money, people will soon use the money to:
- to invest;
- to consume;
- to lend without interest.

5. Because on money lent, no interest may be charged:
- money will not be lent to unreliable individuals, businesses and structures.
- less money will lent and more money will be directly invested in equities and real estate.
- money will only be lent to reliable people, people with collateral and well-financed companies can borrow without interest.

6. Therefore there will never be an economic crisis, because money is spent directly and there are no bad loans.

7. Because all money is directly used for investment or consumption, everyone is at work and the economy grows steadily at maximum speed.

8. The financial sector is largely superfluous, and that is a good thing, because this sector produces nothing and destabilises the economy. People working in financial services will get another job quickly, because the economy grows steadily at maximum speed.

9. Governments also need much less to interfere with the economy. The people who did this work, will get another job quickly.

10. As the economy grows constantly at maximum speed, and because no more money is printed, prices will fall. Therefore loans with zero percent interest will have a return that is probably higher than the interest rate you will get at the bank now. The money you lent will be worth more when the loan matures.

11. If one country chooses to apply this system, it will attract capital from other countries since the return of loans with zero percent interest rate is higher than the yield on interest in other countries (bizarre but true!). Therefore, all other countries will need to do this, if one country has changed its money system in this way.

12. Now everyone is free. There is no fear in the economy. There will always be work for employees and there will always be customers for viable businesses. Nobody is deeply in debt.

If you do think this will not work, you are wrong. It has been tried and it worked very well.


The miracle of Wörgl

On July 5th 1932, in the middle of the Great Depression, the Austrian town of Wörgl made economic history by introducing a remarkable complimentary currency. Wörgl was in trouble, and was prepared to try anything. Of its population of 4,500, a total of 1,500 people were without a job, and 200 families were penniless. The mayor, Michael Unterguggenberger, had a long list of projects he wanted to accomplish, but there was hardly any money with which to carry them out. These included repaving the roads, streetlights, extending water distribution across the whole town, and planting trees along the streets.

Rather than spending the 40,000 Austrian schillings in the town’s coffers to start these projects off, he deposited them in a local savings bank as a guarantee to back the issue of a type of complimentary currency known as 'stamp scrip'. This requires a monthly stamp to be stuck on all the circulating notes for them to remain valid, and in Wörgl, the stamp amounted 1% of the each note’s value. The money raised was used to run a soup kitchen that fed 220 families.

Because nobody wanted to pay what was effectively a hoarding fee, everyone receiving the notes would spend them as fast as possible. The 40,000 schilling deposit allowed anyone to exchange scrip for 98 per cent of its value in schillings. This offer was rarely taken up though.

Of all the business in town, only the railway station and the post office refused to accept the local money. When people ran out of spending ideas, they would pay their taxes early using scrip, resulting in a huge increase in town revenues. Over the 13-month period the project ran, the council not only carried out all the intended works projects, but also built new houses, a reservoir, a ski jump, and a bridge. The people also used scrip to replant forests, in anticipation of the future cash flow they would receive from the trees.

The key to its success was the fast circulation of scrip within the local economy, 14 times higher than the schilling. This in turn increased trade, creating extra employment. At the time of the project, Wörgl was the only Austrian town to achieve full employment.

Six neighbouring villages copied the system successfully. The French Prime Minister, Eduoard Dalladier, made a special visit to see the 'miracle of Wörgl'. In January 1933, the project was replicated in the neighbouring city of Kirchbuhl, and in June 1933, Unterguggenburger addressed a meeting with representatives from 170 different towns and villages. Two hundred Austrian townships were interested in adopting the idea.

At this point, the central bank panicked, and decided to assert its monopoly rights by banning complimentary currencies. The people unsuccessfully sued the bank, and later lost in the Austrian Supreme Court. It then became a criminal offence to issue 'emergency currency'.

The town went back to 30% unemployment. In 1934, social unrest exploded across Austria. In 1938, when Hitler annexed Austria, he was welcomed by many people as their economic and political saviour.


Natural Money in history

Using the concept of natural money, I will try to explain some historic facts, which puzzled historians for a long time. Some intriguing historic questions are:
1. How could Western Europe become so powerful during the Middle Ages? They were backwards at the beginning, annihilated by Black Death, and still came out on top.
2. How could the Egyptians build pyramids? This required a great wealth and a great organisation.
3. Why did Rome collapse? They had the greatest civilisation and military organisation at the time.

Although the explanation is speculative, and not proven, there is some logic in it.

The rise of Europe
When the Roman Empire collapsed, Europe fell back into a dark period, called the Middle Ages. Money ceased to exist, because gold and silver disappeared out of circulation. Europe was very fragmented and in general there was no central power structure. Some local lords issued scrip currencies. Those currencies were valid for a limited period of time. After that period, the people holding the currency, had to return it to the ruler and a tax was levied. Those new units were also valid for a limited period of time. The actual value of the unit decreased slowly during the period and was the lowest just before the tax was due.

Not much is known about money in the Middle Ages. What is known however, is that the people of the Middle Ages were deeply aware of the temporality of human life. Memento mori was the motto of the people in the Middle Ages. This means: remember the day that you will die. The charging of interest was strictly forbidden and people felt morally obliged not to do this. Therefore, the people of the Middle Ages were inclined to spend their money fast.[/SIZE]

If we assume this worked like in Wörgl, we may assume that Europe was building capital at maximum speed using full employment. Europe had to start at a very low level. Also, the local lords waged many wars that were destroying capital. But wealth steadily increased, faster than on any other part of the planet. When the crusades started, there was so much wealth to spend on a useless war, that Europeans could battle the Muslims for centuries on their own ground, keeping long supply lines, while the conquered land was not profitable. After that, Black Death annihilated about one third of the population, but only one century later, the exploration and exploitation of the rest of the world by Europe had begun.

The building of the pyramids
In the bible there is a story about a pharaoh having a bad dream about seven fat cows being eaten by seven lean cows. This dream was explained to the pharaoh. He was told seven good years would come and after that seven bad years would follow. Joseph advised the Egyptians to store food on a large scale. They built storehouses for food. Farmers bringing in the food, got receipts for corn. Bakers who wanted to make bread, brought in the receipts, which could be exchanged for corn. It did not take long before the receipts where generally accepted as money. Because of the degradation of the corn and mice eating it, the value of the receipts was steadily decreasing. This enticed people to spend the money fast.

The grain receipt system lasted for many centuries. It made sense to store food to provide for hard times. If we assume this this worked like in Wörgl, we can assume that also Egypt was building capital at maximum speed using full employment. At some point, irrigation systems were in place, houses were built, and there was nothing left to do. Because there was no limit on the ego of pharaohs, and they were worshipped like gods, the pharaohs could use this wealth to build pyramids. The people building the pyramids were probably no slaves but economically free men. The Egyptian civilisation lasted for more than 2000 years, far longer than any civilisation ever.

The fall of Rome
Rome lasted only 700 years. The money system was based on gold and silver. In the beginning Rome was able to expand, and therefore capital could grow faster than interest charges. But after 400 years the expansion was over, and slowly growing debt was becoming a drag on the economy. The government was permanently short of funds. The value of money was constantly devaluated. The military was also badly funded, and therefore other people could invade Roman lands. Debt was destroying Rome.

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Old 10-25-2008, 02:45 PM
 
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Good read.

Agree with some of the general principles laid forth in the author's essay.

Thanks!
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:56 PM
 
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Most of the article I can agree with from a libertarian point of view, I do have another take on interest. For example when Peter turns to Paul and requests a loan for say $100. Paul can say, hey I can trust Peter and I will get my money back at a later date, yet this means Paul is now without this money and is taking a risk that these funds will not be needed until then.
I will go so far as to say Peter is taking advantage of Paul, sure Paul could sue for his money if need be, however in the best of circumstances for all the risk, he would only get $100 back, this after paying his tax on money.
Meaning in the long run Paul is losing money by lending it out, while Peter can enjoy the fruit of his advanced $100 dollars. This example shows why only a fool would lend money without asking for some form of interest and while even in an anarcho-capitalist environment with no government support of the banking system, interest would be necessary to encourage lending. In an anarcho-capitalist environment, the lender like any other business would see the interest as profit,along with whatever service charges the market would bare. In fact, a very rational arguement can be made for stating that the higher the interest rate, the more sound, the rationale for borrowing must be. Since only a proposal that offered a good return of investment would be worth talking on a high interest rate. If zero percent loans were available, you would see an insane rise in stupid, compulsive purchases, and irrational financial planning occur.
By now I'm sure you see a parallel, wait for it, we have tried this experiment in an incompetant way; the subprime mortgage and where did that get us?
I give that the article is intelligent and makes sense in a anarcho-syndicalist political system. I however don't have as much faith in humanity to believe that a true marxist society would work. Human greed does exist and Darwin's evolution teaches us that competition is inherent to the human species.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:58 PM
 
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Are you out of your ****ing mind?!! Banks have to charge interest to stay in business. Without the interest, who pay them then?
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Sneek, Netherlands
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For people interested in discussion on this subject, i recommend reading:

Discussion with progressive people:
OpEdNews » A far more efficient economic system is possible

Discussion with libertarians and Austrian school:
Natural economic order - The Mises Community
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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So how is is free-market/libertarian if charging interest is banned?
How do you propose "taxing money"
By not printing money I assume you mean keeping the money circulating contstant? A physcial peice of money doesn't live forever, so not printing money will lead to a decrease in physical currency.
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Old 11-09-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Well we still have interest and banks now have money, they have seen to that, but they aren't lending so what about that? We have inflation because those on the supply side know that we can borrow when the cost of their goods or services rises beyond what we can pay with cash on hand. This has led to a credit economy where even meals at McDonald's can be financed. That is the aspect of any new economy that must be addressed. In my system, the lowest common denominator of employment: the minimum wage job would be able to provide all the neccessary ingredients for a sustainable lifestyle: food, shelter and basic transportation. Needless to say healthcare, preventative and emergency would have to be nationalized and deducted from earnings as taxes. Caps on malpractice judgements and personal accountability by physicians and healthcare staff would bring down healthcare costs, So would a system of payment for lawyers that was not based on a percentage of the judgement. Billable hours maybe. Revamping the entire world's economy is probably not doable. Caps on salaries, fixed payments for certain services, controls similar to the rent controls in large complexes for smaller units as well, these things are implementable. Sure some will not like it. But clearly what we have now isn't working for a great many otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.

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Old 11-09-2008, 09:13 PM
 
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rome fell because it was an empire. all countries interested in becoming an empire shall always fail. that is why countries should remain a nation and not an empire.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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Interest causes wealth to concentrate as the poor pay interest to the rich. Interest can therefore be seen as a tax on poverty to the benefit of the rich. The following example demonstrates this and also that interest on money is unsustainable and leads to crisis:

If someone brought a 1/10 oz gold coin to the bank in the year 1 AD, and the money remained there until the year 2000 AD, collecting a yearly interest of 4%, the amount of gold in the account would have been 3.6 * 10^31 kilogrammes of gold weighing 6,000,000 times the complete mass of the Earth.

If interest is charged on a limited scale or over a short timeframe then those problems do not surface. Interest is an insidious process. Over time it is unescapable that it reduces large numbers of people to a state of servitude to the money lenders. This is a long term development that transcends the life span of a human. Interest is the main reason why a number of civilisations have failed and why Western civilisation is about to fail. Therefore all interest is usury and the current financial system is a usury financial system.
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:30 PM
 
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To make the idea work I have figured out a practical method that does not need many people or much money. It can however turn explosive and finish off the current financial system because this idea is more efficient:

Forum Post: Natural Money Bomb: the way to finish off the banks | OccupyWallSt.org

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Most of the article I can agree with from a libertarian point of view, I do have another take on interest. ... Human greed does exist and Darwin's evolution teaches us that competition is inherent to the human species.
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Are you out of your ****ing mind?!! Banks have to charge interest to stay in business. Without the interest, who pay them then?
What I think or what anyone else thinks does not matter. It works or it does not. Experiments in the past have shown that it works. The experiments were banned by the government otherwise everybody would use scrip money now.

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