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Old 05-21-2012, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The language the Smith-Amash Amendment offered was bad. Read the actual verbage of the amendment. It did not protect "citizens" specifically but persons in general. It is an important distinction in regard to the rights of US citizens vs. non-citizens.

(Yes, I watched the lengthy debate over the amendment live on CSPAN last Friday).
I guess that is why Ron Paul was one of only 19 republicans to vote YES for the amendment you hate, whereas your style of conservatism is represented by the one where he voted NO.

Why doesn't it surprise me that Ron Paul's choices aren't very popular even with his loud mouth supporters?
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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I guess that is why Ron Paul was one of only 19 republicans to vote YES for the amendment you hate, whereas your style of conservatism is represented by the one where he voted NO.

Why doesn't it surprise me that Ron Paul's choices aren't very popular even with his loud mouth supporters?
Outstanding post! Their silence speaks volumes,..
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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I guess that is why Ron Paul was one of only 19 republicans to vote YES for the amendment you hate, whereas your style of conservatism is represented by the one where he voted NO.

Why doesn't it surprise me that Ron Paul's choices aren't very popular even with his loud mouth supporters?
Unfounded personal attack noted.

As usual, you ASSume much. I did not state my personal opinion about the amendment, only about the language which many of the GOP members cited during the live CSPAN House floor discussion as being a problem.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:16 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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HAHAHAHAHA

You are hilarious.

the elections have not been held yet, and neither nor I know who the republicans will choose for their candidate.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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I see mentioning the support in House was a bit inconvenient. Here is how it went back in December:

House Votes, Yes:
Republican: 82% (190 yes, 43 no)
Democrat: 50% (93 yes, 93 no)
Overall: 68% (283 yes, 136 no)

Senate Votes, Yes:
Republican: 94% (44 yes, 3 no)
Democrat: 94% (48 yes, 3 no)
Overall: 94% (94 yes, 6 no)

Sounds like a massive support for NDAA by congress, with an overwhelming support for it by republicans in the house and by both republicans and democrats in the senate.

Now, here is the latest: Defense Bill Passes House, Faces Veto

- The fiscal 2013 defense authorization bill passed the Republican-led House 299-120 (Republicans: 222 out of 238, Democrats: 77)
- Amendment against indefinite detention was killed: Republicans (219, or 92%) and Democrats (19, or 10%).

You see, your hatred is misdirected.
It's been stated before, in the end, does this vote matter? Does this vote take it to "law", nope, it does not. You did show that it was passed with bi-partisan agreement.




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Now don't go around showing facts or anything the right wing nutjobs can't stand it, as shown already numerous times in this thread.
Nope, we just get tired of the same twisting. NUMEROUS bills that were passed by the house have never been voted on by the Senate. This bill was passed by a democratic held Senate, if the dems would not have voted to approve it, it would not have passed.
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