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Old 05-20-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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Judge strikes down NDAA, rules Obama must obey Constitution

In a considerable setback for a president eager to ravage the due process rights of the American people, Federal Judge Kathleen Forrest granted a preliminary injunction on Wednesday, striking down those sections of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2012 which sought to provide Barack Obama the power to indefinitely detain citizens without benefit of their 5th Amendment rights.

Signed very quietly into law on New Year’s Eve, the controversial Act has been roundly criticized as unconstitutional by groups on both the political left and right. Of greatest concern was Section 1021, which grants the United States military authority to exercise police powers on American soil. Upon order of the president and at his sole discretion, agents of the military are empowered to detain “until the end of hostilities” anyone the president believes to have “substantially supported” al Qaeda, the Taliban, or “associated forces.”
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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LOL! NDAA is a republican bill that had almost unanimous support from the supposed "less government!" "pro-constitution!" GOP/tea party.

The bill is being held up by liberal judge (and Obama appointee) Forrest.

This is a great move to see those that actually stand for freedom and the constitution (the left), are doing just that
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL! NDAA is a republican bill that had almost unanimous support from the supposed "less government!" "pro-constitution!" GOP/tea party.

The bill is being held up by liberal judge (and Obama appointee) Forrest.

This is a great move to see those that actually stand for freedom and the constitution (the left), are doing just that
In the Senate, more Republicans voted against it than Democrats. And many Democrats in the House voted for it.

And Obama signed it.

I guess you don't care about facts.

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Old 05-20-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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LOL! NDAA is a republican bill that had almost unanimous support from the supposed "less government!" "pro-constitution!" GOP/tea party.

The bill is being held up by liberal judge (and Obama appointee) Forrest.

This is a great move to see those that actually stand for freedom and the constitution (the left), are doing just that
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In the Senate, the number of Democrats who voted against it was similar to the number of Republicans who voted against it. And many Democrats in the House voted for it as well.

And Obama signed it.

I guess you don't care about facts.
President Ron Paul is going to repeal it anyway.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Good. Hopefully she won't be overturned. Despite what people say about federal judges, and there are some bad ones out there, they seem to be the only people in the government who have not completely turned their coats on the American Public, yet.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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Here is an excerpt from the Presidents signing statement attached to this bill

... the bill may not be construed to affect any "existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States." My Administration strongly supported the inclusion of these limitations in order to make clear beyond doubt that the legislation does nothing more than confirm authorities that the Federal courts have recognized as lawful under the 2001 AUMF. Moreover, I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.

Pretty much is the complete opposite of the OP's premise. No, not pretty much, it is the complete opposite of what you are trying to sell. The President clearly states that his administration will not do what you say it will.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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President Ron Paul is going to repeal it anyway.
HAHAHAHAHA

You are hilarious.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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HAHAHAHAHA

You are hilarious.
I'm going to mark this post and go back to it after Ron Paul's inauguration.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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LOL! NDAA is a republican bill that had almost unanimous support from the supposed "less government!" "pro-constitution!" GOP/tea party.

The bill is being held up by liberal judge (and Obama appointee) Forrest.

This is a great move to see those that actually stand for freedom and the constitution (the left), are doing just that
And Co-Sponsored by Representative Adam Smith (D)

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (H.R. 1540) - GovTrack.us


U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

The vote was 88 yes, 12 no. All but 2 dems voted no and 10 rebubs voted no.

So, your assumption that this was ALL repubs is once again an true leftist rant that has nothing to back it up.

So, want to dispute this? These are pretty good websites I got the info from......
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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President Ron Paul is going to repeal it anyway.
Well, Dr. Paul couldn't "repeal" the law even if he became president. He won't be though because he won't run as an independent. However, I bet that sonny boy Rand will eventually make a run for the white house and might have more luck than his dad.
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