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Old 05-21-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Look,

You asked the question. That's the answer. Do you want something made up from a Lefty blog or what the Supreme Court says.

If you don't want the answer to something - don't ask the question.
People's freedom and security comes with a price to pay for it: taxes. Why should churches be treated any differently?
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Bishop Fulton Sheen advocated the taxation of religious institutions on the grounds that the Catholic Church owed a debt to society and that paying taxes would be fulfilling its debt to society.

Taxing religious institutions would mean they would be free to directly comment on politics - they would become like PACs.
Yes, they would become like PACs.

And the Democrats would not like the results.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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People's freedom and security comes with a price to pay for it: taxes. Why should churches be treated any differently?

You mean like any differently than say General Electric?
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yes, they would become like PACs.

And the Democrats would not like the results.
What would be the difference between now than then? If not for religious zealots, what would the state of Republicanism be?

"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye."
- Barry Goldwater, 1994

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You mean like any differently than say General Electric?
No, GE is merely the corporatists religion and should be forced out of loop holes that the very same politicians have devised to help them out. But I'm sure you'd defend GE as feverishly as churches? Or, would you prefer to be a hypocrite?
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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Interesting (and relevant) article about Italy giving some consideration to taxing the Vatican:

Vatican told to pay taxes as Italy tackles budget crisis - Europe - World - The Independent
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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Exempting churches from taxation is a government subsidy, which definitely has an impact on freedom of religion.
No it doesn't.


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Case law has found taxing churches to be constitutionally neutral.

If churches were taxed, taxes for individuals could potentially be decreased.

Yeah, that'll be the day.

The Left would want to tax churches and they would still want to raise taxes on individuals.

The more taxes the better and it doesn't matter how.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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People's freedom and security comes with a price to pay for it: taxes.
Again, the left wing solution to everything to everything....taxes.

How about the solution being.....ready for it? Liberty.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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Liberty.
Liberty is just a cool sounding word. That's it.

No such thing exists in amerikkka unless you are in the 1%
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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But I'm sure you'd defend GE as feverishly as churches? Or, would you prefer to be a hypocrite?
No, I don't defend GE. Make them pay their taxes.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Liberty is just a cool sounding word. That's it.

No such thing exists in amerikkka unless you are in the 1%
and there we have the truth about your warped world view.

LOL......

Your beloved government has been the largest usurper of the history of the world.

Thanks for revealing yourself as the collectivist, central planner that you are.
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