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Old 05-23-2012, 09:06 PM
 
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Demand your rep support this amendment.

Help Rand Paul Stop FDA Abuse – Act NOW! | Republican Liberty Caucus

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The first goal of the Paul Amendment is to reign in FDA overreach in regulating dietary supplements and deliberately misclassifying foods, vitamins and natural medicines as drugs, placing them under inappropriate restrictions or removing them from the market entirely. This addresses an ongoing problem with the FDA attempting to expand its authority to interfere more and more with the health food and natural medicine market to reduce competition with commercial pharmaceuticals. Paul’s proposal does not limit reasonable regulation of dangerous substances, but does target opportunistic overregulation.
The second target of the amendment is the excessive expansion of enforcement power in the FDA. This has become a problem with a number of federal agencies which have decided they need their own police forces. In the case of the FDA they have developed a cadre of armed enforcement officers and are sending them out to conduct forced inspections of manufacturing facilities and farms, often carrying out searches and making arrests without a warrant in violation of the 4th Amendment. It is questionable that the FDA should ever have been given the power to arrest people and they certainly shouldn’t have their own armed enforcement units. The Paul amendment would disarm the FDA and require them to follow due process in going after violators.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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My senators support it, but getting Lloyd Doggett to support it would be like chewing on barbed wire.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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If something claims to cure a disease, it should be treated as a drug.

The FDA needs MORE enforcement authority, not less, to prevent adulterated drugs from entering the stream of commerce. The consumer has no way of knowing what is in the drug or food he buys. Without the FDA we can have all kinds of garbage being sold. Refer to The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So Paul believes the purveyors of snake oil ought to be able to take your money or endanger your life without anybody being able to stop them? And, believe me...there's a lot of dangerous snake oil being sold in the guise of "healthy" supplements.

No thanks.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:30 PM
 
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Well there will always be those who think government knows best and it should even be able to use violence to convince you.
Militarized food police in America,who'd a thunk it possible?

I see no reason a supplement purveyor shouldn't enjoy the protection of the first amendment to market it's products.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well there will always be those who think government knows best and it should even be able to use violence to convince you.
Militarized food police in America,who'd a thunk it possible?

I see no reason a supplement purveyor shouldn't enjoy the protection of the first amendment to market it's products.
Who's saying that can't market their products IF they're determined to be both effective and safe?

Where is that 1st Amendment right to market a product?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Who's saying that can't market their products IF they're determined to be both effective and safe?

Where is that 1st Amendment right to market a product?
When did first amendment rights become subject to government approval beforehand?

Would you like to have to submit your posts to a fed beureucrat for approval before hitting submit?
Like I said, there will always be those of your ilk that think government knows best (determined to be effective and safe lol)

Fine with the armed FDA goons to I'll bet.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:11 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So Paul believes the purveyors of snake oil ought to be able to take your money or endanger your life without anybody being able to stop them? And, believe me...there's a lot of dangerous snake oil being sold in the guise of "healthy" supplements.

No thanks.


by word of mouth, the free public will weed out the bad and support the good.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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by word of mouth, the free public will weed out the bad and support the good.
By word of mouth and trips to the emergency room or undertaker. Are you willing for one of your kids or grandkids to be among them for the principle of less regulation?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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By word of mouth and trips to the emergency room or undertaker. Are you willing for one of your kids or grandkids to be among them for the principle of less regulation?
Maybe you are in the habit of not paying attention to what you ingest and need a guv certification to tell you it's safe?The FDA says Krispy Kreme donuts are okay and raw milk verboten, pure sugar bad and HFCs good and so it goes...
All guv regs do is create a false sense of security and are manipulated for a price to decide what products are allowed to poison us (or cant be brought to market to help us).
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