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Basic infantry training was part of boot camp, for the males. All males graduate Marine boot camp with a basic MOS of 0311 (Infantryman). Infantry training comes during the Third Phase of boot camp, which includes the gas chamber, live-fire obstacle training, close-quarters combat training, and a three day mock engagement. Then those males who are actually assigned to an infantry unit go through additional training when they reach their permanent party, the SOI.
Maybe that is what has changed as the females go through the 3rd phase training now. Did they not go through that in the past? She will never get the advanced combat training of the 0311's though. Thanks for your service.
It is amusing that those who have never been in the Infantry seem to believe they are experts on what is needed in being part of the Infantry.
Not an attempt at amusement, but I am certainly no expert either. There are some tough ladies out there that could handle it though is really the only point I was making....well that and being proud of my daughter anyway lol.
There is more than just be able to match the men physically. ( running, pushups, situps etc ) They also need to " fit in " and not be sensitive to derogatory insults and foul language, sexual jokes that are exchanges between the guys in the field. They can't be running to their commander and cry about being offended. As a woman you have to be extra tough, tougher than the guy. If you can do that, then there should be no reason for women not to be able to join.
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Maybe that is what has changed as the females go through the 3rd phase training now. Did they not go through that in the past? She will never get the advanced combat training of the 0311's though. Thanks for your service.
As I mentioned previously, women recruits went through a completely separate boot camp. Unlike the other military branches that have co-ed basic training, the Marines are separate. It is tradition in the Marine Corps to train every man, regardless of their MOS, to be an Infantryman first. It is one of the things that separates the Marine Corps from every other branch of the military. Obviously, that is not the case with women Marines.
I have no problem with women serving in any MOS in any military branch for which they qualify, providing there is only one standard for qualification that applies to both men and women. There will be many women that do not qualify, just as there are many men that also do not qualify. If everyone has to adhere to the same standards then there can be no complaint. Morale will not suffer, and lives will not be lost because of political correctness.
i dont think they are banned bek they are women. i think they are concerned about women being targets of rape
Oh please! Women can be raped anywhere. Are you proposing they all be locked up so no one can rape them
Women can't be restricted because they might be raped.
And yes, their fellow soldiers DO rape them and the military covers it up. If the military dealt with it's rapists like civilian rapists are dealt with that would cut down on the rapes.
There is more than just be able to match the men physically. ( running, pushups, situps etc ) They also need to " fit in " and not be sensitive to derogatory insults and foul language, sexual jokes that are exchanges between the guys in the field. They can't be running to their commander and cry about being offended. As a woman you have to be extra tough, tougher than the guy. If you can do that, then there should be no reason for women not to be able to join.
You bring up a good point. When it's just men and they are in a high-tension environment (like combat), they can be pretty crude. A woman amongst them would have to be, not just immune to that kind of talk, but crude enough herself to get along and be part of the team.
You bring up a good point. When it's just men and they are in a high-tension environment (like combat), they can be pretty crude. A woman amongst them would have to be, not just immune to that kind of talk, but crude enough herself to get along and be part of the team.
So? Naughty language should keep women from serving their country?
How ridiculous !
Sorry, but women don't wear white gloves and flowered hats anymore, nor do they blush at "bad words, they even VOTE!
They , LIKE SOME MEN, would have to be immune to that kind of talk OR crude enough herself/himself to get along .
Yup! That's real life!
Do you REALLY think women never hear or use bad language outside of the military?!?!
So? Naughty language should keep women from serving their country?
How ridiculous !
Sorry, but women don't wear white gloves and flowered hats anymore, nor do they blush at "bad words, they even VOTE!
They , LIKE SOME MEN, would have to be immune to that kind of talk OR crude enough herself/himself to get along .
Yup! That's real life!
Do you REALLY think women never hear or use bad language outside of the military?!?!
What in that post made you think I was opposed to women using crude language or being in a combat situation? If you care to check back a few pages, I said I'm on board with women being allowed into combat.
I'll say this much. There isn't a modicum of doubt in my mind that you would have no trouble whatsoever talking the rough language of combat.
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What in that post made you think I was opposed to women using crude language or being in a combat situation? If you care to check back a few pages, I said I'm on board with women being allowed into combat.
I'll say this much. There isn't a modicum of doubt in my mind that you would have no trouble whatsoever talking the rough language of combat.
And do you consider that an insult? Why?
Do you look down on those in the military who use rough language?
Why?
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