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Old 05-25-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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BTW....I'm still waiting for you to back up your statement about Bowie being the best HS in PG County. Inquiring minds want to know.
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That's very off topic and I don't recall saying that. I do always hear about how much people try to get their kids into that school instead of other ones in the area and its bursting at the seams, that's something that isn't true anywhere in Montgomery.
Don't pay any attention to that. He doesn't really have much expertise in any subject matter. He is keen on attacking and has become rather good at it. Just don't pay any mind to him because he might be in between prescriptions and we should all embrace our forum members with A.D.H.D. as it can be difficult at times.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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Why do we accept modern slavery?

We get controlled in school, work, church, military... pretty much any guided path that we are told to follow, we end up being controlled.

The truth about K-12 school is that it is TRAINING for the WORKERS. That's right, the purpose of school (95%) is basically about learning to follow directions. The other 5% is actually learning the good stuff. But hey, you graduate and have a paper to prove you are ready to follow directions.

Now, you enter the world of 8-5 and you follow directions from your manager/supervisor/boss. Like a robot, you arrive at exactly 8am and leave exactly at 5pm to join the others in traffic. If you don't, you get fired.

But at some point you get tired of it so you go to college. 4 years go by in college and now you are very, very good at following directions. So good that now you have 2 papers to prove it. So you re-enter the world of 8-5 and continue to follow directions from your manager/supervisor/boss. Only now you are in debt and stuck in traffic.

Sounds crazy? Sure insult me, it's fine. But think about it and don't kid yourself.

We are being controlled, yes, because we are forced to go to school, pay taxes, pay the high cost of living, pay student loans, attend jury duty, wear a seat belt (so you can make it to your 8-5 job OK).


So with that said, let's turn this into a positive post and come up with ideas to change the world (or at least the USA). Anyone?
It's because people are happy being slaves as long as they can live in their own little bubble of reality. They thought big brother Government was their friend giving them all their needs -retirement, health care, et al. Meanwhile the public fed more and more from the palm of the hand of their Government getting fat (literally) off the fruit of OTHER people's labor.

There was no perceptive. Just a selfish desire to get what they think they are entitled to.

The bottom line is 1) our currency is about to go into the toilet 2) our national Sovergnty is about to erode away and 3) we are now almost ENTIRELY dependent upon our Government to eat, sleep, etc.

These people are NOT stupid. They have more "professionals" at their disposal with YOUR tax dollars than they could ever need. They know exactly what they are doing. What are they after? What every Government is after.. Power.

The Source of our problem is Spiritual. We have turned our back on YHWH God Jesus Christ. If all got their hearts right with their Maker, all would turn around 100 percent gauranteed.

But we aren't doing that are we?
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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SMH



Don't pay any attention to that. He doesn't really have much expertise in any subject matter. He is keen on attacking and has become rather good at it. Just don't pay any mind to him because he might be in between prescriptions and we should all embrace our forum members with A.D.H.D. as it can be difficult at times.
There you go again with the attack posts, Alinsky.

If you haven't got a better game than that, perhaps you should go back to the bench.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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There you go again with the attack posts, Alinsky.

If you haven't got a better game than that, perhaps you should go back to the bench.
All I have been trying to do is to reach out to misguided folks out there and tell them about the 30 hour work week. It is a genius concept that needs to make it to congress. There are far more positives than negatives that will benefit the average 50-60 hour worker such as yourself.

I want memorial day 10 years from now to have people say "Wow, I remember when we were forced to work 40 hours just to barely survive"

Remember, be kind to others as this forum is intended to be constructive.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Neg75, if you can keep your expenses low, you can live a life on your own terms. But most people with families end up with a life of very few options, where they have to die a thousand deaths working jobs largely for the benefit of the 1%. Especially true outside of the employment centers in the US.

Pass on the kids and maybe the wife, and you'll have plenty of freedom financially and otherwise.

And a note about pay for performance. It sounds good, but can be frought with unfairness. It favors cliques, old-boy networks, whatever, it ends up being managers helping friends out. It already exists; if private sector salaries were suddenly made public, the outrage would shut down the country. Plus, given that 'financial' performance is the most valued in a capitalist society, we already pay employees 'close to the money' exponentially more.

We need to change the capitalist formula to where sustainability is the main goal, not maximizing profits. And the GOP is propping up Mitt Romney? He's everything that has not been working for the US... but what a nice smile.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Neg75, if you can keep your expenses low, you can live a life on your own terms. But most people with families end up with a life of very few options, where they have to die a thousand deaths working jobs largely for the benefit of the 1%.
I completely agree, however a 30 hour work week will not impact income and would compliment lowered expenses.

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And a note about pay for performance. It sounds good, but can be frought with unfairness. It favors cliques, old-boy networks, whatever, it ends up being managers helping friends out.
That will never go away, regardless of strategy. Cliques, good ole boy networks and even unions exist for the simple fact that people want to succeed and have a level of protection.

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We need to change the capitalist formula to where sustainability is the main goal, not maximizing profits.
Agreed.

You brought valid points to the table, thank you for that (unlike some of the recent posters who prefer personal attacks and witty banter)

Unfortunately, corporate profits & work-life balance opposition will always win over the unequivocal quality of life for the average workers.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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All I have been trying to do is to reach out to misguided folks out there and tell them about the 30 hour work week.
Have you made up your mind about which 30 hour work week that's going to be yet?

You've made the case for 30 hours a week with everything else being overtime and you've also pimped for 30 hours a week and still getting paid for 40.

If you can't even make up your mind on what it is you stand for, this entire thread is pointless.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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All I have been trying to do is to reach out to misguided folks out there and tell them about the 30 hour work week. It is a genius concept that needs to make it to congress. There are far more positives than negatives that will benefit the average 50-60 hour worker such as yourself.

I want memorial day 10 years from now to have people say "Wow, I remember when we were forced to work 40 hours just to barely survive"

Remember, be kind to others as this forum is intended to be constructive.
You're on the wrong thread, unless you want the mods to combine your threads.

A "genius concept"?! You still haven't explained it coherently! You haven't clarified whether it would mean people working for part-time pay (why would anyone with a family to raise do that?) or employers paying workers full time for part-time work (why would any employer in their right mind do that?!). You sound like an airhead slacker trying to push an ill-conceived idea on people who have bills to pay and kids to put through college. Good luck with that.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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All I have been trying to do is to reach out to misguided folks out there and tell them about the 30 hour work week. It is a genius concept that needs to make it to congress.
So could I be like, super genius, for suggesting a 20 hour work week?
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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So could I be like, super genius, for suggesting a 20 hour work week?
a 20 hour work week would basically be 15 hours (part time). it falls in place with this plan:

30 hours = FULL TIME (anything else is overtime)
15 hours = PART TIME (anything 15-25 hours is still part time)
weekends days can be used in exchange for normal weekdays

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