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Old 05-26-2012, 12:22 AM
 
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What do you mean allow? Are you suggesting that you want the government to start sterilizing people?
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:16 AM
 
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Yep, righties, let's cut off all social services so we can find more homeless and abandoned children.
Its a proven fact that the more social spending there is, the more poverty there is.. Woo hoo.. yeah, lets just keep adding them..
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:26 AM
 
Location: California
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Then you take your ENTIRE paycheck and pay for those kids. You won't. You want everyone else to pay for YOUR viewpoints. Typical liberal hypocrite.
Nah. I'd rather see the vein in your head pop out. Pics please
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:25 AM
 
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How do you propose limiting the number of children they can have? Jail time for to many children? Mandatory castration? How about several thousands in fines? Well lets just make them pay for all of them......

Problem is, limiting people is not freedom. Its social justice, imposed by a federal system not meant to do that. Secondly, sending someone to jail would put the children in foster care, become a larger burden on the state, and that just doesn't make sense. Thirdly, you're going to medically castrate people? You know the Germans did that kind of crap under the Nazi's. Fine them, well now you're just taking money they are going to need to take care of the kids, so someone is going to starve, and it probably won't be the adults, you can live with that?

I'm just curious how you'd limit the number of children people can have. Are we going to base it on income?

seriously.....

How bout we keep it simple. Do away with the chilkd tax credit and welfare.The rest will take care of itself.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Its a proven fact that the more social spending there is, the more poverty there is.. Woo hoo.. yeah, lets just keep adding them..

It is? Show me the proof.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:53 AM
 
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Police still trying to identify three abandoned children - CNN.com

Yep leftists, lets allow people to have as many children as they want. No reason not too.
What on earth does this have to do with 'leftists'?

Isn't it far right social conservatives who want to ban abortion, contraception and sex education?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Police still trying to identify three abandoned children - CNN.com

Yep leftists, lets allow people to have as many children as they want. No reason not too.
Ummmm, aren't the R's against birth control and family planning?
What do you plan to do? Force abortion or limit breeding? How do you plan to do that?
Don't R's hate Planned Parenthood because the founder, over 100 years ago, talked about eugenics?

C'mon now, you need to do a little research on what YOUR PARTY believes.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:58 AM
 
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Actually republicans have. Many times. Many times they have requested welfare recipients be forced to have birth control, while on general assistance. LIBERALS have blocked this. Each and every time. Hence the liberal standpoint.

If you can afford to have a 100 children. So be it. No problem by me. Have em, raise em, and be happy. However, if you can't afford to have ANY children, don't have them. Don't force me and the rest of the country to suffer, because you can't keep it in your pants or keep your legs apart.

NOTICE. I do NOT show a bias for male or female. BOTH are at fault. I don't care. You can afford or you can't. PERIOD. Race, sex, gender is indifferent to me. DON'T have kids you can't afford and let society pay for them.
Oh, please, I beg you, provide this legislation and the breakdown of votes by party.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How bout we keep it simple. Do away with the chilkd tax credit and welfare.The rest will take care of itself.
So we should just let children starve? If not, are we going to take them from their parents. Do you know how much money that costs?

Its real simple to write what you posted, but the realities are far more difficult. Welfare, is generally for the children of an adult, not just the adult. Most of the people on welfare are trying to get off of it.

I am ok with the child tax credit going away. I don't need that. Just let me claim them as a standard dependent, with standard deductions for them. As far as "welfare", when we are talking about the actual welfare program, spending is very low. Entitlement spending is high, and if you're calling all entitlement spending welfare, you'd have a point. But you see, 70% of Americans don't want social security or medicare changed, one bit. That can be done, and still balance the federal budget.

Contrary to popular belief.
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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Police still trying to identify three abandoned children - CNN.com

Yep leftists, lets allow people to have as many children as they want. No reason not too.
Hilarious. I guess all those pro-life people and all those who uphold the right of religiously affiliated organizations not to allow contraception on their health care benefits are closet lefties.
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