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Old 05-25-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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As Reason Magazine’s Peter Suderman and AEI’s James Pethokoukis have noted, spending under the Obama administration has been at historic highs, consuming an average of more than 24 percent of the economy, compared to an average of around 20 percent under George Bush
You do realize that fractions have denominators? Spending can rise to 24% of the economy by spending rising or the economy falling, which it did.

This is one of the not-so-clever ways conservatives mislead the public.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, Obama wasn't even President when that projection was forecast.



Bush requested $3.1 trillion in spending...

Bush sends Congress 3.1 trillion-dollar budget_English_Xinhua



Did the CBO sign a budget, cuase Bush didn't.

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Old 05-25-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Bush asked for $3.1 trillion...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/wa...nd-budget.html


Obama and the Democrat Congress spent more than $3.5 trillion...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...s/hist01z1.xls
Since the deficit for 2009 was $1.3 trillion, that means that Bush accounted for $900 billion of that deficit, or 70%. No matter how much you want to shift blame to Obama, it's mostly Bush. Facts are facts and numbers are numbers.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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So if I earn $100,000 and spend a million and the next year I earn $100,000 and only spend $999,999 I'm on the right track. LOL.

May Allah have mercy on your souls.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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You do realize that fractions have denominators? Spending can rise to 24% of the economy by spending rising or the economy falling, which it did.

This is one of the not-so-clever ways conservatives mislead the public.

Boo-hoo!

That trillion we spent to "stimulate" the economy didn't work?

Tough ****!
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Since the deficit for 2009 was $1.3 trillion, that means that Bush accounted for $900 billion of that deficit, or 70%. No matter how much you want to shift blame to Obama, it's mostly Bush. Facts are facts and numbers are numbers.
Hey, Sherlock, what part of the US national debt is on the course to be 1/3 of the world's GDP by 2020 and will match the world's GDP by 2040 is so hard for you to understand?

No, Obama is not a fiscal hawk and saying so only makes you look like a total buffoon.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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Government spending under Obama, including his signature stimulus bill, is rising at a 1.4% annualized pace — slower than at any time in nearly 60 years.
Obama spending binge never happened - Rex Nutting - MarketWatch
Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.
When your baseline year was spendapoolza it's not that hard to achieve. The issue is they are still spending like it's 2009.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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Boo-hoo!

That trillion we spent to "stimulate" the economy didn't work?

Tough ****!
I guess you think that if you repeat a falsehood enough people will think it is true.

In any case, I already debunked that lie today:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/24456747-post4.html

In addition, it wasn't a trillion. It was about $800 billion, spread out over two-years with 40% tax-cuts. Only a person set out to deceive would label tax-cuts as spending.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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From the CBO, January 7, 2009: Ann Coulter as an objective source?
SFGATE - FACT CHECK: Obama off on thrifty spending claim
Read more: FACT CHECK: Obama off on thrifty spending claim

"The problem with that rosy claim is that the Wall Street bailout is part of the calculation. The bailout ballooned the 2009 budget just before Obama took office, making Obama's 2010 results look smaller in comparison."

AP: FACT CHECK: Obama claim of thrifty spending record falls short of reality
FACT CHECK: Obama claim of thrifty spending record falls short of reality - The Washington Post

Ed Morrissey: WaPo
WaPo: Three Pinocchios to WH over their defense of Obama spending « Hot Air


There are plenty of neutral sources chiming in on this outrageous claim. Obama is now in full spin-cycle, and he's willing to soak all of us to get re-elected.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Since the deficit for 2009 was $1.3 trillion, that means that Bush accounted for $900 billion of that deficit, or 70%. No matter how much you want to shift blame to Obama, it's mostly Bush. Facts are facts and numbers are numbers.

Bush is accountable for the $3.1 trillion he requested, not the $3.5 trillion that was spent. Bush was never presented with a budget. If he signed a budget that authorized spending $3.5 trillion, he would be responsible for that spending, but that never happened.
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