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Especially coming from one of the most violent and segregated cities in the country. White people screaming and running for cover and bus drivers having seizures when a black guy gets on the bus. What a joke.
Seattle is whiteyville as far as I'm concerned. Bunch of clueless self righteous liberals.
Just had to highlight these words - lest they get lost in the background noise.
So... that would make nearly everyone else in the developed world what, not free? They're a lot more free from worry about violent crime than Americans are. Interesting definition of freedom you have. I wonder if our Canadian, Australian and European members would agree with it.
I think you are reading something into my 'definition' that is not really there. I didn't say that was the definition of freedom, I did say that free men can own firearms. As far as our Canadian, Australian & European members, they made their own laws and have to live with them. They don't have our constitution and it's second amendment, but the way things in the US are going, we probably won't have it much longer either.
Did you read and comprehend the post? Doesn't sound like it.
People with CCW permits are statistically among the most law abiding in the country. She (if it was a she) would have far more to worry about with neighbors that do not have a CCW permit, that those that do. Besides, a high rate of CCW permits typically serves as a deterrant to violent crime.
That indeed is correct, Notice you NEVER see any of "us" on here spouting off about how wonderful all these new dope laws are and such?! The list is long for THE GOOD GUYS!
Did you read and comprehend the post? Doesn't sound like it.
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Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth
Prohibiting firearms works quite well in Europe. You don't have to remove humans from the equation, you remove the firearms.
I've read most of your posts in this thread. This one like the others are laughable. If only you would do some research and know what you are talking about before you start spewing the stuff you spew. Most of your posts are just plain hogwash. There are gun crimes in foreign countries even tho the ownership of firearms is prohibited. You need to read a few of the crime statistics reported by the FBI in recent years, you can read and understand what you read? As gun ownership in the US has increased, serious crime has decreased. Sorry, it's a fact. Those involved with Brady and friends are like you, they don't want to believe it and try to make us think the facts are not accurate.
If people are abusing laws like SYG to kill people that don't make them feel good, then at the least these laws should be amended, if not outright abolished.
exactly.
an unarmed kid in tampa was stabbed to death over a car radio, and the killer invoked SYG laws at trial..
this is insane and in some states DOJ is looking to repeal SYG.
As an assault victim, I can mention that I thank god the assailant didnt have a gun as I wouldnt be alive today. Not everyone wants to live in a country of loose cannons carrying guns. There arent enough guidelines to prevent the mentally unstable from getting a gun at the local walmart.
an unarmed kid in tampa was stabbed to death over a car radio, and the killer invoked SYG laws at trial..
this is insane and in some states DOJ is looking to repeal SYG.
As an assault victim, I can mention that I thank god the assailant didnt have a gun as I wouldnt be alive today. Not everyone wants to live in a country of loose cannons carrying guns. There arent enough guidelines to prevent the mentally unstable from getting a gun at the local walmart.
[jared loughner/Tucson case, anyone?]
That^ is already against every Federal law in the book. Have you ever heard of a 4473 or a NICS check? How about an FFL? If a nutcase makes it through the FBI, an FFL and commits a felony on the 4473 for lying....he pretty dang sneaky and good.
I've read most of your posts in this thread. This one like the others are laughable. If only you would do some research and know what you are talking about before you start spewing the stuff you spew. Most of your posts are just plain hogwash. There are gun crimes in foreign countries even tho the ownership of firearms is prohibited. You need to read a few of the crime statistics reported by the FBI in recent years, you can read and understand what you read? As gun ownership in the US has increased, serious crime has decreased. Sorry, it's a fact. Those involved with Brady and friends are like you, they don't want to believe it and try to make us think the facts are not accurate.
For being such a big expert on crime rates in the US, I don't see you posting any statistics. If Europeans and Canadians manage without handguns, why would Americans need them?
It's easy for mental cases to get guns. There are gun markets that operate outside the legal verification system. And just because someone doesn't have a documented record of mental instability doesn't mean he or she is mentally stable.
So you all don't mind Presidents and Presidential candidates (RFK) being shot? Schools getting shot up by a depressed kid? Little kids accidentally shooting their playmates? What if it was your kid involved in an incident like that?
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For being such a big expert on crime rates in the US, I don't see you posting any statistics. If Europeans and Canadians manage without handguns, why would Americans need them?
Maybe we like them and collect them. Maybe we hunt with them. Maybe we like to target shoot at the range. Maybe we like to carry one for self defense. ALL covered under The Constitution and the 2nd Amendment. Maybe we just want to buy one to make YOU mad. I'll do that next week! !~
For being such a big expert on crime rates in the US, I don't see you posting any statistics. If Europeans and Canadians manage without handguns, why would Americans need them?
It's easy for mental cases to get guns. There are gun markets that operate outside the legal verification system. And just because someone doesn't have a documented record of mental instability doesn't mean he or she is mentally stable.
Sure there is. ALL of which highly illegal and NOTHING anymore laws are going to do about it. At least since I can own one, I can shoot him for his masterminded plan in getting one when he shouldn't, should he decide to come after me or any other LEGAL firearm owner.
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