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Very simple solution; go to another doctor. The rape victim is obviously quite stupid. It is about time we stop coddling the stupid.
Gee, I really hope you're never raped () because you might discover that it can be quite traumatizing, the victim may not be thinking clearly....the victiom needs care which doctors are sworn to give...
if the doctor wanted to spread his sick religious beliefs around instead of giving the care he swore to give he should've entered the religious field .
Gee, I really hope you're never raped () because you might discover that it can be quite traumatizing, the victim may not be thinking clearly....the victiom needs care which doctors are sworn to give...
Gee, thanks for the condescending crap but contrary to what you think women aren't children and know what their options are...they surely don't need your help. They can find another doctor.
Dr. Walter Williams on self ownership:
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The first principle of a free society is that each person owns himself. You are your private property, and I am mine. Most Americans probably accept that first principle. Those who disagree are obliged to inform the rest of us just who owns us, at least here on earth.
This vision of self-ownership is one of those "self-evident" truths to which the Founders referred to in the Declaration of Independence, that "All Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." Like John Locke and other philosophers who influenced them, the Founders saw these rights as preceding government, and they said, "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted."
The Framers of the Constitution recognized that while government was necessary to secure liberty, it was also liberty's greatest threat. Having this deep suspicion of government, they loaded our Constitution with a host of anti-congressional phrases, such as: "Congress shall make no law," "shall not be infringed" and "shall not be violated."
Once one accepts the principle of self-ownership, what's moral and immoral becomes self-evident. Murder is immoral because it violates private property. Rape and theft are also immoral -- they also violate private property
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Both rape and forcing a doctor to provide emergency contraception is a violation of the principle of self ownership. They are both morally wrong.
Gee, thanks for the condescending crap but contrary to what you think women aren't children and know what their options are"""
When a woman is raped it may be very traumatic, in fact, she could BE a child. But you're right, women aren't children and no sleazebag "doctor" should deny their requests for care as if they're children....
"""...they surely don't need your help. They can find another doctor."""
Doctor shop after being raped......???? Just wait
""""Dr. Walter Williams on self ownership:
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Both rape and forcing a doctor to provide emergency contraception is a violation of the principle of self ownership. They are both morally wrong.
Then the doctor has no business being a doctor if being god is his real occupation.
I bet Dr. Sleazegod prescribes Viagra and does vasectomies.
You keep saying a doctor cannot prescribe and abortive remedy, but you are showcasing your lack of knowledge of the morning after pill. It prevents conception, it doesn't abort an already growing embryo. If you are anti-morning after pill then I assume you are anti-oral birth contr since they achieve the same thing?
Are you freaking mental or something? I simply replied to the idiot who thought they'd bring up the Hippocratic Oath and then thought they'd school me on what the Hippocratic Oath is.
So what? Our country does not legislate based upon roman catholic teachings.
The point is that the morning-after pill is to be administered by the certified SANE personnel during the examination and treatment.
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Program Goals
This next step involves the development of specific
goals and objectives. The following are examples of
SANE program goals:
n To protect the sexual assault victim from
further harm.
n To provide crisis intervention.
n To provide timely, thorough, and professional
forensic evidence collection, documentation,
and preservation of evidence.
n To evaluate and treat prophylactically for
sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).
n To evaluate pregnancy risk and offer
prevention.
n To assess, document, and seek care for
injuries.
n To appropriately refer victims for immediate
and followup medical care and followup
counseling.
n To enhance the ability of law enforcement
agencies to obtain evidence and successfully
prosecute sexual assault cases.
It doesn't matter if she threw holy water on the victim and started an exorcism on her since her role as someone who was not a certified SANE isn't to treat and guide her to extremely important decisions about her forward courses of action.
Gee, I really hope you're never raped () because you might discover that it can be quite traumatizing, the victim may not be thinking clearly....the victiom needs care which doctors are sworn to give...
if the doctor wanted to spread his sick religious beliefs around instead of giving the care he swore to give he should've entered the religious field .
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Some newer programs have chosen to use the more
generic term of Sexual Assault/ Forensic Examiner
(SAFE) or Forensic Nurse Examiner (FNE). A
program in Minnesota has chosen the SAFE
terminology because they hope to move beyond
examination of only sexual assault victims to the
completion of evidentiary exams on domestic
abuse victims, accident victims, and other populations
where forensic evidence collection may be
useful. Forensic evidence is all too often overlooked
in busy medical facilities where the focus is on
clinical treatment.
At the October 1996 IAFN annual meeting held
in Kansas City, the SANE Council voted on the
terminology it wanted to use in the standards to
define this new position. While there were some
dissenting votes, the overwhelming decision was to
use the title SANE, Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner.
A Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner (SANE) is a
registered nurse, R.N., who has advanced education
in forensic examination of sexual assault
victims. In some areas, the SANE is still referred to
by other names, including Sexual Assault Nurse
Clinician (SANC), and Sexual Assault Forensic
Examiner (SAFE). While the preference for
particular terminology may vary, for the purpose
of this manual the term SANE is used.
Why do you want these victims to possibly be re-victimized by inadequate examinations and treatments? If you disagree with the program that these peer reviewed group of professionals have come up with then present your expertise to them and your more comprehensive plan and let your fellow doctors and nurses peer review it and give you a thumbs up or a thumb in the eye.
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) because you might discover that it can be quite traumatizing, the victim may not be thinking clearly....the victiom needs care which doctors are sworn to give...
Just wait
