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View Poll Results: Are Cities Better off With Casinos or Without
With 25 43.10%
Without 24 41.38%
Not sure 9 15.52%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-02-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I guess my city must be rotten to the core LOL!
Yes it is and you are not guessing. You know that it is rotten to the core. Depends what you are slowly accustomed to and conditioned. Some live with rot and it's normal...no one in Vegas ever says---"Hey what's that smell?"



You see the misery - the addiction - the false hope- the greed- the damaged families- the hookers- the daily heavy drinkers- need I go on?


Whether it is government or private enterprise that runs gambling- Those in control are just criminals. Those that feed on the weakness of humanity..parasites...That's just the way it is and always will be- The HOUSE always comes out on top...So it is not really gambling or games of real chance- In order to have a sustainable and continued profit- You have to fix the games...all gambling that is institutionalized - is crooked- It has to be..that is the nature of this supposedly friendly beast.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So how good something is only has to do with how much money it makes? Tobacco companies must be great then. So must the banks that led to the financial crisis. There is such a thing as something being good for a certain sect of people, but bad for the rest. If you believe that living in a caste society is good then maybe you won't have a problem with that, but I think most of us have decided that that's not the type of system we want to live in.

Yes. If there is no market, businesses will go out of business.

Tobacco companies have millions of very happy customers.

And business has nothing to do with a caste society. Government creates a caste society.

If you want to continue our government sponsored caste society, that's your (poor) choice.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Casinos are overrated for providing education funding. Education has had to be cut in Oklahoma even though there are a bunch of casinos. For an up side, at least casinos provide jobs.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I think when new casinos go up they should be just casinos, horse racing and hotels with a few restaurants. Surrounding the casino should be shopping, more restaurants, amusements, campgrounds and other attractions. This way people want to visit the casinos but they also want to visit the neighborhood to spend their money.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Yes it is and you are not guessing. You know that it is rotten to the core. Depends what you are slowly accustomed to and conditioned. Some live with rot and it's normal...no one in Vegas ever says---"Hey what's that smell?"



You see the misery - the addiction - the false hope- the greed- the damaged families- the hookers- the daily heavy drinkers- need I go on?


Whether it is government or private enterprise that runs gambling- Those in control are just criminals. Those that feed on the weakness of humanity..parasites...That's just the way it is and always will be- The HOUSE always comes out on top...So it is not really gambling or games of real chance- In order to have a sustainable and continued profit- You have to fix the games...all gambling that is institutionalized - is crooked- It has to be..that is the nature of this supposedly friendly beast.
What if it's Indians in control over them?
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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Besides providing pretty good paying jobs for their local areas --

The Morning Sun - Tribe designates more than $540,000 for roads

Road repair and school technology are among the highlights of projects to be funded by communities’ share of Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribal gaming revenues.
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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To deny that corporations have responsibility, but say that people do is ridiculous. If people have duties not to do harm to others for personal gains, why shouldn't corporations (which are made up of people) have the same duties? Don't you think it would be wrong for an individual to mislead people about some product, to sell them something that causes addiction, or sell promises to the poor and uneducated who are the most desperate, and the most likely to be taken advantage of? If it's wrong for an individual to do those things, why isn't it wrong for a corporation?
Who is misleading anyone. The odds are right there for you to get if you want. Hell many casino's even have weekly tutoring for table games and the like. It is after all "gambling". LOL. If you go to the horse races and bet on the longest shot in every race guess what your will lose most of the time. You go to the crap table and toss everything you got on the boxcars your odds of winning are pretty low. The damn dealers will even tell you what the best bet is if you simply ask most of the time. You stand there for four hours gambling the casino will eventually win. You don't know that going in then you are an idiot.
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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I think when new casinos go up they should be just casinos, horse racing and hotels with a few restaurants. Surrounding the casino should be shopping, more restaurants, amusements, campgrounds and other attractions. This way people want to visit the casinos but they also want to visit the neighborhood to spend their money.
You should look at what was built in KCK. They threw up the nascar track in an empty field about twenty or so miles west of KC. Nothing was there before. Now they have a casion, major shopping area, soccer stadium for the local pro team, baseball stadium for the simi pro team, casino, hotels all around the whole shabang. This is bad though.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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Unless there is some redeeming entertainment related to music and the arts, it does more harm than good. The Government should not be involved anyway.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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Unless there is some redeeming entertainment related to music and the arts, it does more harm than good. The Government should not be involved anyway.
At least not with the Indian casinos -- the Indians can have them on Indian land if they want as they are soveign nations.
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