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I have a cousin who went to a religious school by the name of Concordia University. I checked out his curriculum for his Evolution course in biology--Intelligent Design consistent with Genesis (I.E., Creationism) would be taught alongside the Theory of Evolution.
I'm happy to say he's not going to that school anymore.
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Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend
Roysoldboy, please describe a scenario in which you would be satisfied. What kind of debate are you asking for, and how would you fit it into the already crunched class time? Would you have students at any given time be able to interrupt the lesson with a "I don't believe in this stuff" outburst? Can a kid who believes in magic take the floor and describe in detail his "theory" on how magic is true and physics is false?
My intro Astronomy course in college started with, in much more refined terms, "I'm here to teach science, not religious beliefs, and any student who wants to argue with me, will be ejected from the class."
Needless to say, most of the people in this school weren't exactly religious to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Ceece
Perhaps if we had a 5 minute debate is schools some people wouldn't be on here arguing that evolution is a myth.
Not nearly enough time for all the "gotcha" questions creationists think they have, like Carbon Dating, Irreducible Complexity (Flagellum AND eye), various logical fallacies, the ad ignorantum for abiogenesis, etc.
Objection #1 - Mathematics Disproves Evolution
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First for this argument I need to define a term that most of you probably know so bear with me here.
Permutation
Websters New World Dictionary defines it as following.
Permutation
1. a change; alteration; rearrangement.
2. any one of the combinations or changes in position possible within a group. The permutations of 1, 2, and 3 are. 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321
The formula for finding permutations is as following.
P = A ^ C
P = Number of Permutations
A = Number of Letters in the Alphabet
C = Number of Characters in a String of Letters
^ = To the Power of
Consider the Following Example:
Genesis 1:1
in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth
translated into Morse code
..-.-.....-....--...-.-...-.--.--.----..-.-..-...--.-..-...........-...-.-.....--.-..-.......-.-.-....
2A(Number of Letters in Alphabet) [. or -] 102C(Number of Characters in a String of Letters)
This seems like an easy string for Evolution to create by random chance over 15 billion years(Which is the excepted time from the big bang) doesn't it?
Let's plug these numbers into our formula.
P = A ^ C
P = 2 ^ 102
P = 5,070,602,400,912,917,605,986,812,821,504
There are 31,536,000 seconds in a year.
At one permutation a second and assuming that a permutation is not repeated it would take 160,787,747,365,325,900,747,932 years to get this particular combination.
As a matter of fact, it would take 10,719,183,157,688 times longer than the universe has supposedly been in existence just to say "in the beginning god created the heavens in the earth" in Morse code by random chance.
Now let us consider a moderately sized molecule in the human body. The Hemoglobin Molecule.
It is made up from an alphabet made up of 19 amino acids and has a string length of 574 characters
19A 574C
P = 19 ^ 574
P = 1 * 10^734
That is a 1 followed by 734 Zeros
There is only 1*10^80 atoms in the entire universe. Which also had to arise by total random chance.
Scientists consider anything with a chance of greater than 1*10^50 to be impossible. Is it possible than a human eye arose by chance much less the human body?
Decide for yourselves if you want your children being force fed indoctrinated into Evolution Theology.
the fruits have been Columbine, Virginia tech, etc. And we wonder why they act like animals shooting each other.
You always try to play the same stupid games with other posters.
Try this, if the only evidence for any theory is a 2000 year old book should that theory be taught in science class?
Once again - the theory that you are refering to (causes of infections) is irrelevant to the discussion in this thread - which is the teaching of evolution and creationism.
I have been consistent in this thread(and other "evolution" threads - neither creationism or evolution should be taught in public schools.
Why you want to deflect from that topic and go on about bacteria and demon possession is a mystery to me.
Laughing out loud. Anyone who equates teaching the science of evolution with Va Tech is nearly as twisted as the gunman was.
What whackjob site did you copy this nonsense from?
How come you focused on the Va. Tech reference but ignore the heart of the post - which was the demonstration of the mathematical impossibility of evolution?
How come you focused on the Va. Tech reference but ignore the heart of the post - which was the demonstration of the mathematical impossibility of evolution?
Hows your research into human genetic fusion going?
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