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Old 06-11-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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The bugs evovled, just as God planned.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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So you got access to a Godoscope somewhere?
Yeah its called the Holy Spirit....
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Yeah its called the Holy Spirit....
Ah yes, the third of the three gods of Christian polytheism.

So... you been chatting up the Holy Spirit lately?

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Old 06-11-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Tsunami are much different from floods, as floods are caused by rains from the "heavens". I believe the bible referred to Noahs ark as a great rain. Otherwise there is no natural disaster that has occurred the way it is literally written in the bible. There are great many flood stories throughout the world but remember to these cultures the world could be as geographically large as a modern country.
Not that I ever bothered with fairy tales, but wasn't there something about rain for forty days and forty nights? That doesn't sound like a sudden wave...

I'm guessing that some early cultures saw the extent of the "world" as being the valley between the adjacent mountain peaks.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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you both are wrong. i believe in a creator, and i also believe in evolution.
That isn't creationism. It's not a "form" of creationism either. It's simply called theism.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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That isn't creationism. It's not a "form" of creationism either. It's simply called theism.
Doesn't matter what the flavor of the month label YOU put on it, it is still the same thing. You're trying to inject your religious BELIEFS into the mainstream educational process. That is a no no, becuz there isn't enuf room in the day to cater to everyone's beliefs. Allow one, allow all....

Religion is a belief system, evolution is well settled science.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Why can't creationism and science co-exist?
You only need to watch/listen to William Lane Craig explain how science and creationism does co-exist, and tear up every athiest he debates in the process.

He's debated Law, Silver, Shook, Millican, Badawi, Flew, Hitchens (who now understands the truth,) among many others. The granddaddy of athiests Dawkins refuses to debate him, because he'd be torn apart.

Creationism doesn't ignore science, just bad (bunk) science. Science and creationism can and do co-exist, science based on the perception "there is no God" cannot.

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Religion is a belief system, evolution is well settled science.
Show me the skeletons of the procession of species from ape to man. You can't.

Cro Magnon is dated to 35,000 years and that's about as far back as any "proof?" goes. Unless a piece of a jaw, or a tibia qualifies after being spoofed into a fantastic (and impossible) find. I'm not even sure carbon dating is accurate; "The fact that carbon and radioactive carbon are independently formed means that their ratios to one another could have changed substantially from ancient times to today".

We know that after Hiroshima/Nagasaki and all the nulear tests, carbon dating was thrown off a bit. So how can we say something is actually as old as RCD implies?

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Old 06-12-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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science is based on that "there is no god" .. because there IS no god. sorry, that's a fact and science supports it.

so no, creationism and science cannot "co-exist". without god, creationism cannot 'exist'
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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science is based on that "there is no god" .. because there IS no god. sorry, that's a fact and science supports it.

so no, creationism and science cannot "co-exist". without god, creationism cannot 'exist'
All you've proved is that you don't read, but rather scan words. Funny how you still supported what I stated, though. I appreciate that.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Show me the skeletons of the procession of species from ape to man. You can't.
as has been explained in the OTHER thousands of evolution vs creationism thread:

If you are still of the belief that we came from apes, you CLEARLY do not understand or even have READ anything to do with the Theory of Evolution.

for the umpteenth time: Evolution has never theorized that we came from "apes". Only that we share a COMMON ancestor.

I suggest that before you continue, that you best pick up a biology book that covers evolution and READ it thoroughly
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