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Old 06-06-2012, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Some people need more common sense. I mean would you cruise around LA or vegas in the back of a car seated next to Shug Knight? Not unless it was bulletproof.
I guess if you had a gun to your head or the threat of being killed or your family being killed one just might go for the ride.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:25 AM
 
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Do you really think family members of those folks in the wild west of pakistan are fans of the US to begin with?? LOL. Gimme a break. This nonsense that this is driving folks to seek revenge or "creating terrorists" is just that, nonsense. They are raised from the day they are born to kill all infidels. That is what they do.
Do you ever read books with any substance or is Lack of Intelligence and Knowledge your handbook that makes you an authority? We can rule out common sense.

Why would it be that people are raised to kill all infidels, as you put it? Is it just in Pakistan or all Muslim countries?
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:25 AM
 
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These killings mean little or nothing considering we are siding with al-Qaeda in Syria and Libya, making peace with the Taliban in Afghanisan, and encouraged the Arab Spring in Egypt which is bringing the Muslim Brotherhood to power.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Screw it. Preach a Final Crusade and end Islam forever! Is not that what all you RWNJ's want?
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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so the WAR CRIMINAL obama bombs a SOVEREIGN NATION of pakistan, kills civilians, and its good to liberals????
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Why do people automatically assume we are killing "terrorists" when we have no evidence that that is true. Continued drone strikes will foment terrorism and hatred of the west, just as they claimed Guantanamo would. We are the terrorists!!!!! Obama claims all civilians killed in these acts are "militants". Everything that we are told about this incursion into the middle east is a lie. The US is the muscle for the Zionists, that's what is boils down to.
The motive of the US/NATO/AL-Qaida Alliance from the start is to invade, destroy, destabilize then leave that country permanently in civil war. See what is happening in Iraw, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and now Syria. Similar is planned for Iran, Russia, Lebannon, China and N. Korea.

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He also said that Syria should become a target for “American leadership,” in the context of ignoring UN mandates and sending in American troops to directly help rebel fighters who, as we have documented, are being directed by Al-Qaeda terrorists.
“You need the center of gravity to instigate this coalition (supporting opposition groups in Syria) and move forward with a defined plan,” said Rubio. “In the absence of American power and American influence and American leadership, it’s hard to do that.”
Rubio’s rhetoric went down well with the Brookings Institution, an establishment think tank that openly admits in its own memos that the “responsibility to protect” humanitarian ruse is merely a crude pretext for long-planned regime change in Syria.
Rubio:

Think for yourself, question everything the media is telling you, because most of it is propoganda and is not the truth. We are not the good guys, and haven't been for a long time.

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

Henry Kissinger
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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Why do people automatically assume we are killing "terrorists" when we have no evidence that that is true. Continued drone strikes will foment terrorism and hatred of the west, just as they claimed Guantanamo would. We are the terrorists!!!!! Obama claims all civilians killed in these acts are "militants". Everything that we are told about this incursion into the middle east is a lie. The US is the muscle for the Zionists, that's what is boils down to.
The motive of the US/NATO/AL-Qaida Alliance from the start is to invade, destroy, destabilize then leave that country permanently in civil war. See what is happening in Iraw, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and now Syria. Similar is planned for Iran, Russia, Lebannon, China and N. Korea.

Rubio:


Rubio:

Think for yourself, question everything the media is telling you, because most of it is propoganda and is not the truth. We are not the good guys, and haven't been for a long time.

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

Henry Kissinger
That's exactly right! The government and our foreign policy has been hijacked by the international crime syndicate known as the international banking establishment. The IMF has been systematically destroying countries and emerging democracies around the globe for decades ... installing dictators, and crushing popular uprisings.

The largest terrorist training facility in the world, the "School of the Americas" has been located at Ft Benning Georgia, and has trained more terrorists and kill squads than any other facility known to exist. When you hear reports of masked murderers in Central America massacring innocents, chances are they were trained there.

We support brutal dictatorships in one country, labeling the oppressed people as "insurgents" and "rebels" .... while we support the "rebels" in another country against a democratic government. Who ever agrees to sell out to the World Bank, becomes the good guys, and whoever makes the mistake of insisting on maintaining sovereignty becomes the bad guys.

Today's best friend becomes tomorrow's enemy the moment they say no to the international gangsters operating out of London, New York, and Washington DC. That's the bottom line.

If they can't be bribed ... they will be overthrown ... if that fails, and the legitimate government is able to defeat the covertly created "rebels" ... the gangsters then cry "human rights violations" and call for and deploy the military to save the people from their evil government. What they wind up with is a destroyed country, and mass suffering like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

And now they have trained their cross hairs on US .... TSA and hands down your pants .... 30,000 drones to be deployed domestically to combat the real terrorists, the American people, and not those madison avenue created boogie men wearing turbans. It was never EVER about real terrorists when they started patting down little old ladies after 911 ... and the phony shoe bomber, and the phony underwear bomber ... all excuses to roll out the police state to do one thing .... to be prepared to crush US .. the moment the masses realize just what has been done to them.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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G inT and Claudhopper speak the truth. We are the enforcement arm of the international banking gang and the rabid zionists. The One World Government is in place and has been for a long time.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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I don't think we have time for tip toeing through the tulips any longer, since the criminals have already announced plans for 30,000 drones to be deployed for use here in America, along with the other obnoxious domestic police state activities that have steadily accelerated post 911.

We have now reached a crossroad where continued denial and childlike thinking has got to stop, since we are rapidly approaching an intolerable future of unbridled tyranny and despotism that has never before been seen, not just "over there", but right here on main street USA. The line in the sand has to be drawn right here ... right now ... no time to wait till later.

Al Qaada is a FRAUD ... plain and simple. It's a "western intelligence" manufactured boogie man who's illegitimacy has long been recognized by anyone capable of a rational thought, and we need to stop legitimizing this fraud by continuing to discuss it as if it were real. It's no more real than Santa Claus, and it's high time that we all stop putting out cookies and milk for them.

Al Qaeda was created long ago by the CIA/ISI to fight the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. And since then, it's operatives have been deployed strategically wherever and whenever political unrest and instability is desired and required to further the geopolitical goals of the western power structure, going back to Bosnia. We now have it reported in even the mainstream news that Al Qaeda was participating in the Libyan uprising and overthrow of that government ... but their trail goes back to Egypt's eruption of unrest and the overthrow of Mubarak by another western controlled group of Muslim terrorists, the "Muslim Brotherhood". By any other name, a rose is a rose, and that's true of western intelligence operations and these "created" weapons of political unrest, used under the guise of homegrown political revolution.

The same scenario is now playing out in Syria, following the same inane and transparent game of propaganda and murder under the pretext of defending freedom, democracy and human rights, blaming violations on whichever government finds itself up next on the pentagon "Hit list" for destabilization and overthrow. PERIOD.

And people had better start to pull their collective heads out of the sand (or wherever else they might have them buried), because this isn't a conspiracy theory ... it is real, it is happening right before our very eyes, and we were told about these plans before they were ever implemented:


GENERAL WESLEY CLARK SPEAKING 2007 ON IRAN LIBYA SYRIA IRAQ AFRICA AND 911.flv - YouTube

Now, Gen. Clark has been brutally honest and upfront ... at the time, he could have been dismissed as an anti-Bush ideologue, attempting to damage the administration, as many republicans insinuated, but not now .. not when we see that what he described as the pentagon plan for destroying 7 countries in 5 years is unfolding EXACTLY as he described, with the only deviation being the time frames for achieving that strategy being a bit behind schedule, but certainly proceeding in that direction.

And here's the deal people ... Syria is smack dab in the cross hairs for an Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya style deconstruction and devastation, as the final step in the larger agenda of war with Iran. But however destructive this strategy has been to this point, and the misery imposed up till now, all of it will pale in comparison to what will result in an attack upon Iran!

The Chinese are warning against it ... the Russians are strongly warning against it, and a US/Israeli war on Iran will almost guarantee the start of World War III, which will undoubtedly lead to the use of nuclear weapons, and once that Genie is let out of the bottle, there is no putting him back in.

So, we can continue blathering about "Al CIA-DUH", and suffer the incalculable consequences that will surely result, or we can collectively grow a few brain cells and realize that our government has been taken over by psychopaths hell bent on endless war, which apparently includes World War III with China and Russia, and demand that congress put a stop to this insanity before it's too late ... and by any means necessary, including the defunding of these military misadventures, and reining in this out of control military dictatorship that began under Bush and has since been dramatically accelerated under Obama.


Panetta Publicly Admits U.S. Military/Obama Takes Orders from The U.N. - YouTube

The situation is dire and the hubris of these war mongering maniacs has grown to the point that they now have openly told congress that they don't need congressional approval, nor are they even inclined to bother asking. Panetta spoke plainly in that video, clearly explaining that the Administration takes their orders from NATO and or the United Nations, and not the United States Congress or the people. He made no bones about the attitude that THEY will decide matters of war, and will INFORM the United States Congress and the American people of what they intend to do, maybe. This is pure unbridled tyranny and full blown DICTATORSHIP. Penatta directly informed congress of their collective irrelevance in no uncertain terms, relegating them to a defunct, non-functional, illusory body of government without a shred of authority. And in so doing, he also declared the US Constitution irrelevant.

What else will it take? How much more IN-YOUR-FACE blatantly despotic tyranny must show itself before there can no longer be denial? This is now out in the open, and every member of the Obama Administration, including Panetta, as well as the flag officers at the pentagon who are implementing these policies are now actively engaged in Treason against the United States and the American people, with no room left for questions.

Time is up. There is no longer any valid excuse for not recognizing what is happening, because these criminals no longer even feel the need for deception. The message is clear ... and the only way you can miss it is to close your eyes in an exercise of brain dead ignorance.

Furthermore, public compliance as well as continued silence and denial equals complicity in this crime. This is no longer a Left versus Right .. Democrat versus Republican issue. This boils down to whether or not we the people of the United States wrest back our country from the criminal psychopaths who have taken over it, or whether we will continue to quietly go along with these policies of self destruction.

That's it ... that's the reality .. and how ever it turns out, we will have rightly earned the outcome, good or bad. The ultimate responsibility will fall on us, either through action or inaction.

So for those so inclined, go ahead and sit there and wait for the bombing of Iran to begin ... then wait for CNN to interrupt your local broadcast of American Idol with news that a US Warship was sunk in a counter offensive by either China or Russia ... and then it will be game on ... and no turning back.

The moment full military operations commence in earnest in Syria, be it Nato with or without direct US participation .. the clock will start ticking on the planned attack of Iran, and nothing short of a mutiny and a US military coup to overthrow this war mongering dictatorship in Washington, will prevent World War III.
Great post. Get ready boys and girls. It's getting closer now. I recommend rosaries and confessions. It's getting closer. At about the same time they completely implode the economy, the next phase of the war will begin. PRAY!!!! Save your soul. This has all been prophesied.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0IiCrs58RY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shik10vA2pc

The nephew of the Late Cleon Skousen who wrote, The Naked Capitalist & Naked Communist
Here's a link to him on "Coast To Coast A.M." with George Noory August 2, 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLgt2WD7hhM&feature=related

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Some of this sound familiar? Like it could happen?

Quote from: http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFziq6VBEpk

This guy could be a dis-info. agent (talks about aliens) but most of what he says seems to be spot on if lined up with other sources.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM2UIhsPNKk&feature=related

http://www.city-data.com/forum/23128826-post77.html

BBC News - China warns US on Asia military strategy

Russia and Iran continue to support crumbling Assad regime


World War 3 - To Be Officially Declared - YouTube

Prison Planet.com » Clinton says Russia is sending gunships to Syria, could escalate conflict ‘quite dramatically’

Prison Planet.com » China warns of full-scale war in Syria as Lebanon army restores calm after clashes

Prison Planet.com » China Announces How It Would Fight Against The US Fleet

This is no Joke folks!!!!!

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