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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
I said property crime, robbery etc has seen a sharp increase after the legalization, and you post a link which has nothing to do with property crimes and robberies. Typical.
show me a link or is this just some more bsganda..
do you work for big pharma???
do you fly a helicopter for law enforcement looking for mj fields??
do you work for a prision??
are you a hired by a cartel to post negitive things about mj??
If you want opinions of medical experts like doctors and counselors and scientific reasearchers just go to BBC health section and type in Marijuana and you will get many reports on the harm of the drug. Otherwise your just listening to street talk opinions. Go with the professionals opinions.
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Originally Posted by Angorlee
If you want opinions of medical experts like doctors and counselors and scientific reasearchers just go to BBC health section and type in Marijuana and you will get many reports on the harm of the drug. Otherwise your just listening to street talk opinions. Go with the professionals opinions.
ohh... you mean go to all the studies funded by big pharma thats alright i will pass on all that propaganda
If you want opinions of medical experts like doctors and counselors and scientific reasearchers just go to BBC health section and type in Marijuana and you will get many reports on the harm of the drug. Otherwise your just listening to street talk opinions. Go with the professionals opinions.
Not all professionals agree on marijuana:
"Cannabis will one day be seen as a wonder drug, as was penicillin in the 1940s. Like penicillin, herbal marijuana is remarkably nontoxic, has a wide range of therapeutic applications and would be quite inexpensive if it were legal." Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School
Dr. Grinspoon also thinks it would be OK to sell marijuana over the counter and let people experiment with it for their medical problems. After all, marijuana can't kill you. This is no different from allowing people to buy antihistamines over the counter at the drug store to try to deal with their sinus problems.
I am here because I want to see someone present a good reason for legalizing it, but so far I have only seen "alcohol and cigarettes are worse". That is not much of an argument. Also, the the pro-drug crowd does not hesiste to lie and downplay the risks, and that approach always reveals a weak position. Pro pot team has displayed all classic signs of weak position, so I remain totally unconvinced about the wisdom of legalizing it.
There are 126 medical conditions for which it sometimes works better than any pills, according to expert Dr. Lester Grinspoon, retired from Harvard.
Granny Storm Crow's list has over 1,000 published medical papers, with conditions helped listed alphabetically.
Cannabis has not been proven to be a direct cause of death even once out of the more than 1 billion that have used it over the past 10,000 years.
Recent anecdotal reports say people are being cured of cancer and other fatal illnesses using cannabis oil. It was in pharmacies until 1937.
Libertarian presidential Gary Johnson used cannabis 3 years to manage his pain after falling 50', with broken bones in back, rib, & knee. He chose not to use Big Pharma's highly addicting opiates. He has been saying (re)legalize MJ publically since 1999. Many of the 50 million Americans that admit to being cannabis users will probably vote for him. He will be on the ballot in all 50 states, for sure!
It is important to remember that Big Pharma gives pols megamillions every year to keep cannabis illegal. Pills used as directed kill over 100,000 Americans annually. Same for alcohol. Tobacco kills 400,000 Americans a year. If it kills, it's legal. If it doesn't kill, it's illegal. Why?
Do you want to help pay for the incarceration of hundreds of thousands of harmless people? Is that what freedom is all about? CNN online poll said 96% of responses favored legalization.
Gary Johnson would tax cannabis 100%, which would likely make the price 10% of what it is now. This would stimulate economy, more jobs.
If you want opinions of medical experts like doctors and counselors and scientific reasearchers just go to BBC health section and type in Marijuana and you will get many reports on the harm of the drug. Otherwise your just listening to street talk opinions. Go with the professionals opinions.
You mean the studies with the teensy control groups?
Please.
If you want opinions of medical experts like doctors and counselors and scientific reasearchers just go to BBC health section and type in Marijuana and you will get many reports on the harm of the drug. Otherwise your just listening to street talk opinions. Go with the professionals opinions.
You mean the so-called experts that brought us those highly addictive opiates in which they give out like candy? Umm, no thanks.
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie
Not all professionals agree on marijuana:
"Cannabis will one day be seen as a wonder drug, as was penicillin in the 1940s. Like penicillin, herbal marijuana is remarkably nontoxic, has a wide range of therapeutic applications and would be quite inexpensive if it were legal." Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School
Dr. Grinspoon also thinks it would be OK to sell marijuana over the counter and let people experiment with it for their medical problems. After all, marijuana can't kill you. This is no different from allowing people to buy antihistamines over the counter at the drug store to try to deal with their sinus problems.
Now this is a Dr. with logic. Give people options. Some people react differently to meds. I certainly don't like taking meds, even when I have a cold. I will, but only for a short time.
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Originally Posted by westcoastforme
Just legalize it already! I can't believe in 2012 we are still debating this!
Those who don't want to see it legalized are either still brainwashed by the lies and propaganda, or they work for the special interest groups who fear that they will lose money from legalization. Oh well, I guess you better find a new line of work.
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Originally Posted by GJJG2012
There are 126 medical conditions for which it sometimes works better than any pills, according to expert Dr. Lester Grinspoon, retired from Harvard.
Granny Storm Crow's list has over 1,000 published medical papers, with conditions helped listed alphabetically.
Cannabis has not been proven to be a direct cause of death even once out of the more than 1 billion that have used it over the past 10,000 years.
Recent anecdotal reports say people are being cured of cancer and other fatal illnesses using cannabis oil. It was in pharmacies until 1937.
Libertarian presidential Gary Johnson used cannabis 3 years to manage his pain after falling 50', with broken bones in back, rib, & knee. He chose not to use Big Pharma's highly addicting opiates. He has been saying (re)legalize MJ publically since 1999. Many of the 50 million Americans that admit to being cannabis users will probably vote for him. He will be on the ballot in all 50 states, for sure!
It is important to remember that Big Pharma gives pols megamillions every year to keep cannabis illegal. Pills used as directed kill over 100,000 Americans annually. Same for alcohol. Tobacco kills 400,000 Americans a year. If it kills, it's legal. If it doesn't kill, it's illegal. Why?
Do you want to help pay for the incarceration of hundreds of thousands of harmless people? Is that what freedom is all about? CNN online poll said 96% of responses favored legalization.
Gary Johnson would tax cannabis 100%, which would likely make the price 10% of what it is now. This would stimulate economy, more jobs.
Our tax dollars would be better served by going after real criminals as opposed to someone who wants to consume a God given plant! I mean, don't let me be the deciding member on a jury for someone popped for marijuana, because he won't get a guilty verdict out of me.
Another issue that I see is that while a lot of Americans are waking up to the fact that keeping it illegal is beyond ridiculous, you still have a certain faction that is just apathetic about it, and they just do not care either way. Having said that, when it comes to individual freedom, and liberty, every American should be concerned. As for Big Pharma continuing it's push for continued prohibition, well... keeping people sick is big business.
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