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Old 06-11-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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It's never about race until they prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is
Bingo, something we finally agree on.
I could not care why someone commited a murder, the result is the same and the punishment should fit the crime committed, in this case, the most that the state law allows.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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Another black-on-white crime? yawn. The mainstream media only cares about black crime victims if the perpetrator is an evil white person. This sad story of a pizza delivery murder will be ignored, swept under the rug, there will be no hate crime charges, and the poor lady will end up being just another forgotten statistic in the Democrats' simmering race war.
And people care about Black and Black crime? I'm not saying that White victims aren't relevant. What I am saying is that when it comes to Black people are crime, people only mention it in the context of "Blacks are a criminal race and need to be controlled". Rarely does anyone mention that Blacks are the most likely to be murdered in the USA. No one seems to mention the Black child who gets killed because he was caught in the crossfire of a gang shooting. No one seems to be tackling the issue of the "snitches get stitches" policy. If you are Black, live in the ghetto, and you inform on a criminal, your chances of getting murdered will be MUCH higher.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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So is Michigan and it is home to some of the most violent cities in the USA.
Michigan has almost 3 times the population density of Minnesota.

I'd say that is pretty significant.

List of U.S. states by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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Michigan has almost 3 times the population density of Minnesota.

I'd say that is pretty significant.

List of U.S. states by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
New Jersey is #1 in population density followed by Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut and all have lower murder rates than Michigan.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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And people care about Black and Black crime? I'm not saying that White victims aren't relevant. What I am saying is that when it comes to Black people are crime, people only mention it in the context of "Blacks are a criminal race and need to be controlled". Rarely does anyone mention that Blacks are the most likely to be murdered in the USA. No one seems to mention the Black child who gets killed because he was caught in the crossfire of a gang shooting. No one seems to be tackling the issue of the "snitches get stitches" policy. If you are Black, live in the ghetto, and you inform on a criminal, your chances of getting murdered will be MUCH higher.
Because these people who carry on their self righteous attitude really don't care in reality. It is what it is.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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I didn't say anything about deterrence. I just said that Georgia still has a higher crime rate in spite of having the death penalty.

I know correlation does not equal causation. My point is that it doesn't make a difference. People with a violent "I don't care if I live or die, and I don't care who dies" mentality are out there.
why did you bother mentioning that at all then, if not for the deterrence aspect?
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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New Jersey is #1 in population density followed by Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut and all have lower murder rates than Michigan.
All have more jobs too.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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All have more jobs too.
This is part of what I'm getting to. There are quite a few factors. There is no "one" reason why violent crime happens. There are many reasons.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Because these people who carry on their self righteous attitude really don't care in reality. It is what it is.
Sad but true. There are many people who would never admit that a Black person's life mean's nothing to them, therefore, not mentioning Black on Black murders.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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why did you bother mentioning that at all then, if not for the deterrence aspect?
I'm a critic of the death penalty. I'm not convinced that it would deter crime. If the point is to lower the crime rate, why is it not working?
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