The words of a madam in a pathetic university (Saddam, dictator, leader)

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

Here:


YouTube - Minutemen Protest

Hmm.

So what I see is a bunch of kids disrupting what appears to be a school-sanctioned talk by the Minutemen group.

I can see how easily this can be construed as Columbia itself treating conservative speakers poorly (or censoring them, even), ya know, rather than just a handful of protesters.

Oh wait.

Is it natural for y'all to be so damned good at grasping at straws?

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by bily4

Muslims actually are in many ways very similar to our Christian members in relation to their perception of religion, and social issues.

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Although Muslims constitute a small minority in the United States, and their holy book and many of their religious rituals are distinctly their own, Muslim Americans are by no means "the other" when it comes to religious life or politics in the United States. In many ways, they stand out not so much for their differences as for their similarities with other religious groups.

In their level of religious commitment, Muslim Americans most closely resemble white evangelicals and black Protestants. In their basic political orientation, they closely resemble black Protestants as well as seculars. When it comes to their views on some social issues, such as homosexuality, Muslims' conservatism matches that of white evangelicals. Muslims are even more likely than evangelicals or any other group to support a role for government in protecting morality.

When asked about how they think of their personal identity, only about a quarter (28%) of all Muslim Americans say they identify themselves first as an American rather than as a Muslim. This number is strikingly similar to the percentage of white evangelicals (28%) who say they think of themselves first as American and only secondarily as Christian. In fact, a higher percentage of evangelicals (62%) identify themselves first by their faith than do Muslims (47%).

Half of Muslim Americans (50%) view the Koran as the word of God to be taken literally, word for word. Majorities of both white evangelicals (66%) and black Protestants (68%) hold a similar view of the Bible.

Despite their relatively liberal political orientation, Muslims by no means take liberal positions on all issues. On social issues, they are more similar to white evangelicals. About 60% of Muslim Americans, for instance, say that homosexuality should be discouraged, a figure close to that recorded among white evangelicals, and substantially higher than among other groups.


Pew Forum: How Muslims Compare With Other Religious Americans

The issue isn't about Muslim compared to Christianity. There are points in common with some Muslims and with some Christians. However, in the more radical form of Islam, the points you raise carry a death penalty for people who behave in a way inconsistent with the beliefs.

[bigchuckie]

Originally Posted by Rggr

The issue isn't about Muslim compared to Christianity. There are points in common with some Muslims and with some Christians. However, in the more radical form of Islam, the points you raise carry a death penalty for people who behave in a way inconsistent with the beliefs.

I agree bily made it sound like Jerry Falwell was sawing off peoples heads in the name of God

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by bigchuckie

I agree bily made it sound like Jerry Falwell was sawing off peoples heads in the name of God

I didn't get that impression at all from reading billy's post - what part(s) of his post evoked that sentiment for you?

[GregW]

Please remember that the Spanish Inquisition did cut off people’s heads in the name of god. Many of the people were also Christian but Jews and Muslims were included just to be fair..

Fanaticism knows no bounds. That is why they are called fanatics.

[LauraC]

Oh man, I thought this was one of those Hookers for Educational Enlightment posts.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by LauraC

Oh man, I thought this was one of those Hookers for Educational Enlightment posts.

ROFL!!!

[bily4]

Originally Posted by bigchuckie

I agree bily made it sound like Jerry Falwell was sawing off peoples heads in the name of God

I did? How so? Just reporting the results of a PEW survey on religion.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

Hmm.

So what I see is a bunch of kids disrupting what appears to be a school-sanctioned talk by the Minutemen group.

I can see how easily this can be construed as Columbia itself treating conservative speakers poorly (or censoring them, even), ya know, rather than just a handful of protesters.

Oh wait.

Is it natural for y'all to be so damned good at grasping at straws?

Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume that students are an integral part of the university. One might almost say that they constitute, well, "Columbia itself."

Unless you're arguing that the behavior of students is somehow irrelevant?

[citigirl]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume that students are an integral part of the university. One might almost say that they constitute, well, "Columbia itself."

Unless you're arguing that the behavior of students is somehow irrelevant?

They will say anything to justify behavior against someone they do not agree with.