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My big fuss is that the government has no business promoting religion. The court decisions that uphold the presence of "under god" in the pledge are wrong, plain and simple. While it is true that the Pledge of Allegiance as a whole is a civic exercise and not a religious observance, there is absolutely no legitimacy to the claim that the insertion of "under god" and the recitation of that phrase is anything but a religious statement.
The same is true of putting religious phrases on our currency.
What is more, the fact that you keep arguing that it belongs there based on the religion of a majority of the population actually supports my contention that it is all about religion, no matter what the Supreme Court says. You would strenuously object if I proposed and successfully agitated for the language of the Pledge to be changed to "one nation, subject to no god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." You would be right, and not because atheists are a minority but because we have no business asking the government to endorse or oppose religion.
The same principles applies to any other group who tries to get the government, which is not based on religion or religious principles in any way, to endorse your religion.
My big fuss is that the government has no business promoting religion. The court decisions that uphold the presence of "under god" in the pledge are wrong, plain and simple. While it is true that the Pledge of Allegiance as a whole is a civic exercise and not a religious observance, there is absolutely no legitimacy to the claim that the insertion of "under god" and the recitation of that phrase is anything but a religious statement.
The same is true of putting religious phrases on our currency.
What is more, the fact that you keep arguing that it belongs there based on the religion of a majority of the population actually supports my contention that it is all about religion, no matter what the Supreme Court says. You would strenuously object if I proposed and successfully agitated for the language of the Pledge to be changed to "one nation, subject to no god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." You would be right, and not because atheists are a minority but because we have no business asking the government to endorse or oppose religion.
The same principles applies to any other group who tries to get the government, which is not based on religion or religious principles in any way, to endorse your religion.
We are a majority Christian nation. I shouldn't have to (and won't) dig up the statistics to prove this to you. Just because your feelings are hurt doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, will cater to you. Fortunately, the Court decided you and your ilk aren't winning the "under God" debate. Go back to your corner and cry some more with the other vile, disgusting atheists who find solace in empty platitudes.
Vile, disgusting atheist here! Just want to remind you that as a vile, disgusting atheist, it's not possible to hate God, as I don't believe there is one, per se.
As far as Jesus goes, I think he was a pretty cool mortal dude with some fine things to say, so I don't hate him either.
No tears shed on my end. If it makes you happy to have under God in your pledge, then I'm happy for you.
I'm not sure what Jesus would have to say regarding your gross mis-categorization of people who don't believe the exact same thing as you, but no skin off my nose.
I'm off to find some solace in empty platitudes. I know I had some around here somewhere.
You see, your problem is that you have started a battle of wits but you're unarmed.
I never midquoted you, I was just trying to make some kind of sense of your bizarre discussion of the difference between apples and oranges and how the differences lie in their color and flavor. Sadly, that entire digression had nothing to do with the discussion of the Pledge of Allegiance.
You did misquote me.
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