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Old 06-12-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Could you please explain your logic behind your support for drug tests for employees who work for their money, but not for welfare recipients. It just makes no sense to me.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Could you please explain your logic behind your support for drug tests for employees who work for their money, but not for welfare recipients. It just makes no sense to me.
Government versus Private Sector?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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It isn't. I don't know any liberals who support general employment related drug testing.

That's even beyond the very basic point that drug testing requirements for public assistance have nothing to do with protecting the public interest and everything to do with expressing hatred for and making life difficult for people who receive public assistance.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Government versus Private Sector?
Government employees get drug tested, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:08 AM
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Government employees get drug tested, if I'm not mistaken.
You are much mistaken, speaking as government employee.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Could you please explain your logic behind your support for drug tests for employees who work for their money, but not for welfare recipients. It just makes no sense to me.
Who said it was OK for employees?

I view it as pretty silly, you go through one (or more) interview(s), the company decides they like you and want to hire you, and then tell you first you have to prove you're not a doper. It deems you guilty until you prove your innocence.

I can see it being required if your job performance/behavior gives cause but disagree with it as a screening tool.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Government employees get drug tested, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think politicians are either. Poor Pee-Ple.

BTW, welfare recipients aren't employees. Let us start drug testing Medicare/Medicaid/VA recipients as well?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Could you please explain your logic behind your support for drug tests for employees who work for their money, but not for welfare recipients. It just makes no sense to me.
Datt....is a good mother question.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I don't think politicians are either.

BTW, welfare recipients aren't employees. Let us start drug testing Medicare/Medicaid/VA recipients as well?
Or the doctors and other health care professionals who get Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement?

Landlords who accept Section 8 payments?

Farmers who get federal susidies?

Oh yes, and homeowners who get the mortgage interest deduction.

After all, if we don't drug test all these people we can't be certain that our tax dollars aren't going to support people's drug habits.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Or the doctors and other health care professionals who get Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement?

Landlords who accept Section 8 payments?

Farmers who get federal susidies?

Oh yes, and homeowners who get the mortgage interest deduction.

After all, if we don't drug test all these people we can't be certain that our tax dollars aren't going to support people's drug habits.
We wouldn't drug test everyone. Just a random sample.
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