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My Dad and I kicked around an interesting quandary. . .
Obama has gone on record supporting gay marriage. This is in direct contradiction to fundamental Christian principles and beliefs. Does a Christian support someone who openly defies what God has directed?
Some would say homosexuality is no more of a sin than lying, cheating or stealing. I would tend to agree with that sentiment.
-- But there are no political agendas for the liars, cheaters or thieves of the world. There certainly isn't a presidential candidate endorsing that these sinners have RIGHTS either..
Others would say that the other candidate is likely sinful and has agendas that aren't 'Christ Like'. I would tend to agree with that sentiment as well.
-- But there are no other candidates publicly expressing their support for non-Christian values. Putting there on front street for the world to see and for the Christian to disdain. . .
In short, does a christian vote for the black man who does not respect a core Christian value? Or does he take a chance on the 'other guy' who isn't niave enough to express such divisive beliefs?
Vote on the issues as your conscience dictates. I'm not sure where "the black man" even has a place in this discussion. If the color of the candidate's skin factors into a person's vote, that person is too ignorant to be voting. Stick to the issues, leave color out of it.
I thought the OP was about gay marriage, not race. How do they always manage to conflate the two?
What about the other Christian values, like charity, not casting the first stone, accepting outcasts like Jesus did? Why are fundies so selective about the Christian values they practice?
Vote on the issues as your conscience dictates. I'm not sure where "the black man" even has a place in this discussion. If the color of the candidate's skin factors into a person's vote, that person is too ignorant to be voting. Stick to the issues, leave color out of it.
Actually, color has lots to do with it considering that African American's are Christians by astoundingly large majorities, yet they voted at a rate of 95% for Barack Obama in 2008. There's no denying (NONE) that race was a factor in their decision to vote for the first (half) black President. As such, a particular quandry is put forth: Do African American voters pull the lever for their Christian beliefs, or will they stay loyal to the race?
Actually, color has lots to do with it considering that African American's are Christians by astoundingly large majorities, yet they voted at a rate of 95% for Barack Obama in 2008. There's no denying (NONE) that race was a factor in their decision to vote for the first (half) black President. As such, a particular quandry is put forth: Do African American voters pull the lever for their Christian beliefs, or will they stay loyal to the race?
No, it just means their brand of Christianity includes all the Christian values, like the Christianity practiced by most educated White people, many of whom also voted for Obama.
Christian fundamentalists have a lot in common with Islamic fundamentalists. Both groups are hysterical about gays. You have interesting company.
As such, a particular quandry is put forth: Do African American voters pull the lever for their Christian beliefs, or will they stay loyal to the race?
It's a good question. I know devout Christians of African American descent, some of which went for color and others for values. I'm sure we'll see more of that in 2012. My point was simply a matter of "should be" not of "how it really is." Should race factor into a vote? Anyone's vote?
Some would say homosexuality is no more of a sin than lying, cheating or stealing. I would tend to agree with that sentiment.
-- But there are no political agendas for the liars, cheaters or thieves of the world. There certainly isn't a presidential candidate endorsing that these sinners have RIGHTS either..
Huh???? This isn't correct. I'm not aware of a presidential candidate calling for liars, cheaters, and thieves to be disallowed from contracting a civil marriage. Are you?
No, it just means their brand of Christianity includes all the Christian values, like the Christianity practiced by most educated White people, many of whom also voted for Obama.
Christian fundamentalists have a lot in common with Islamic fundamentalists. Both groups are hysterical about gays. You have interesting company.
You clearly know nothing about the gay marriage debate in African American churches across this country. African American's have been among the most vehement opponents of gay marriage. Only now are some beginning to hedge on their beliefs. Why? Because they still slobber over Barack Obama and hang on his every word. Others are still holding on to their beliefs, and are faced with a quandry.
Your post is laughable at best, and ignorant at worst.
It's a good question. I know devout Christians of African American descent, some of which went for color and others for values. I'm sure we'll see more of that in 2012. My point was simply a matter of "should be" not of "how it really is." Should race factor into a vote? Anyone's vote?
You clearly know nothing about the gay marriage debate in African American churches across this country. African American's have been among the most vehement opponents of gay marriage. Only now are some beginning to hedge on their beliefs. Why? Because they still slobber over Barack Obama and hang on his every word. Others are still holding on to their beliefs, and are faced with a quandry.
Your post is laughable at best, and ignorant at worst.
So you don't deny you share views with Islamic fundamentalists.
fyi, it's spelled q-u-a-n-d-a-r-y.
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