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Old 06-13-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Where teachers educate their own children


Public schools no place for teachers' kids - Washington Times


that enough or you want more?

more than just slight proof, wouldnt you say?
FYI, 25% is not considered a majority. LOL!

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More than 25 percent of public school teachers in Washington and Baltimore send their children to private schools, a new study reports.
September 22, 2004
Public schools no place for teachers’ kids
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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Isn't that the truth. Always seems the most ignorant people are the ones that are the most vocal advocates of homeschooling. Very frightening!!!!!
Yeah, they're a bunch of dummies alright.

Homeschool freshmen earned a higher grade points average (3.37) their first semester in college compared with the other freshmen (3.08).
Homeschool students finished their freshmen year with a better GPA (3.41) than the rest of their class (3.12).

Can Homeschoolers Do Well in College? - CBS News
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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Thank you. Mission accomplished.

Although since you brought it up, I have to be honest with you. I was really going for sarcasm, and condescention. But, I guess I can settle for insulting. Just as long as you got the point.

As I said, Mission Accomplished.
Condescension. FYI. I learned that word in private, religious, school.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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The truth as defined by who? You?
OMGosh! Bill Clinton, is that YOU?! Coming over for a beer, if so!
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville FL
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And the government doesn't "feed the kool aid"???
Who are YOU to decide what my kids should- or shouldn't- learn??
Why do you assume that an education given in a religious institution wouldn't be academically rigorous? Have you checked the state of our government schools??

I agree that the public schools aren't as good as they should be.

I suggest that ideally, ALL students go to the same public schools. That puts everyone in the same boat, and would insure that everyone pitches in to ensure all schools are good, for all students.

Every student, regardless of school district, parent wealth, area of the County deserves the same excellent quality education. (see Finland)

With all of the private, magnet, charter, and home school options, too many students have opted out of the sysytem, and no longer care about the quality of the public schools. We are becoming a Nation of haves and have nots. That's not good.

To answer your other question, I do not feel that parents have the right to keep their own children from learning basic science principles, math, and actual history, just because those facts may conflict with their religious teachings. So, in that respect, I am against any religious school that refuses to teach those basic facts, regardless of how rigorous it may be. However, if these religious schools actually teach the science and history, then I have no problem with them. (until we adopt the Finland model)
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: in Mary Ann and Ginger's hut
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sheer hypocrisy, I hate those "liberal" elitists
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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I agree that the public schools aren't as good as they should be.

I suggest that ideally, ALL students go to the same public schools. That puts everyone in the same boat, and would insure that everyone pitches in to ensure all schools are good, for all students.

Every student, regardless of school district, parent wealth, area of the County deserves the same excellent quality education. (see Finland)

With all of the private, magnet, charter, and home school options, too many students have opted out of the sysytem, and no longer care about the quality of the public schools. We are becoming a Nation of haves and have nots. That's not good.

To answer your other question, I do not feel that parents have the right to keep their own children from learning basic science principles, math, and actual history, just because those facts may conflict with their religious teachings. So, in that respect, I am against any religious school that refuses to teach those basic facts, regardless of how rigorous it may be. However, if these religious schools actually teach the science and history, then I have no problem with them. (until we adopt the Finland model)
So, you are the expert. How would you feel if I told you that in my opinion, every child should get a religious education? Why is your opinion more valid than mine? Parents are the best experts when it comes to educating their children- not the government.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Oh my God. This is your proof? The first article doesn't even give a percentage, and the second gives this quote.

Nationwide, public school teachers are almost twice as likely as other parents to choose private schools for their own children, the study by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute found. More than 1 in 5 public school teachers said their children attend private schools.

So, let me get my electron calculator out and see if I can figure out what percentage '1 in 5' is.

I guess we already know that it must be more than 50% since that's the definition of majority, and you were so proud to get this 'proof' over to me right away.

Just give me a minute................

OK, I must have done something wrong the first time, because I got 20%. OK, let me try it again. Nope. Got the same answer again. Oh I see, I must be using one of those liberal calculators. You know, the one's that give you the truth, whether to like it or not?

Typical wingnuts. You've made up your minds, and now you refuse to be confused by the actual facts.

1st, i am not a wing nut.

2nd, you asked for the slightest proof, and when i provied that slight proof, all you can do is complain that it isnt enough. even though all you asked for was slight proof. 25% is not slight.

if romney won the potus by 25% over obama, people would be yelling from the rooftops about a landslide victory.

25% is alot more than even people like you would have believed.

how slight is it now?

somehow i think if would have provided proof that said 99% instead of 25% did it, you would have still said it was too little.

you did not want proof, you just wanted to spout off about how people could not provide you with proof and when someone did provide proof, all you are doing is trying to get out from under what you said as slight.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:54 PM
 
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Here's one of many reports from MSM about the fact that most homeschoolers excel above their govt. schooled counterparts.



Home Schooling goes mainstream - YouTube


Next is a peek into a typical homeschooling family, through the MSM. (I dig the park scene because we not only met with groups of families, monthly but took our curriculum just as a family and schooled at the park on beautiful, Hawaiian days, too.)



CNN Discovers Many Americans Are Home Schooling! - YouTube
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville FL
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So, you are the expert. How would you feel if I told you that in my opinion, every child should get a religious education? Why is your opinion more valid than mine? Parents are the best experts when it comes to educating their children- not the government.

Nope, you aren't keeping up.

For 30 hours a week, we get to teach all children the same science, history, math, and actual facts. You know, stuff that's actually useful in everyday life

You would still have the ability to 'teach' your kids whatever mumbo jumbo you want for the other 138 hours of the week. As I said before, if this isn't enough time for you to permanently implant the chip, then you should re-examine the validity of your own beliefs.

And no, I don't think that parents are the best experts.

It wasn't until we allowed parents so many options (magnet, private, Charter, home) that the public schools started being dismantled.
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