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Old 08-20-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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If there were ever a Libertarian majority, the U.S. would be renamed Koch Town.
Kochs are libertarians?
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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If libertarians get their wishes then the US will become a feudal society with many warlords and fiefdoms. Since the government will be too small* to actually protect people's rights, the rich will hire their own military force and the poor will have to either work for the rich as pseudo-slaves or risk getting killed.

Humans started off as libertarians. The hunter-gatherer societies started off without civilian rulers and military forces. Yet, why did people submit themselves to governments? Because they wanted to protect themselves from the strong, and the only way to do that is to work for the strong.

Libertarians want to cherry-pick their rights but that's just arbitrary. Why do corporations have rights but not the environment? A government small enough to appease the libertarians will be one that's too small to do anything at all.
how would the poor be slaves if they have arms?
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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Best I can tell we have full blown corporate fascism. Which is basically the same thing as feudalism.
Nobody really owns anything and they are all are debt slaves.


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Old 08-20-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Corporations are the creations of governments.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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If libertarians get their wishes then the US will become a feudal society with many warlords and fiefdoms. Since the government will be too small* to actually protect people's rights, the rich will hire their own military force and the poor will have to either work for the rich as pseudo-slaves or risk getting killed.

Humans started off as libertarians. The hunter-gatherer societies started off without civilian rulers and military forces. Yet, why did people submit themselves to governments? Because they wanted to protect themselves from the strong, and the only way to do that is to work for the strong.

Libertarians want to cherry-pick their rights but that's just arbitrary. Why do corporations have rights but not the environment? A government small enough to appease the libertarians will be one that's too small to do anything at all.
Malkiel = Moron
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I see many Somalians carrying guns, Somalia, Libertarian utopia.
Somalia was communist. Then they had a civil war (requires government). Now they are under Sharia Law.

They are about as Libertarian as Soviet Russia was.

You'd think people would research things before making outrageous claims.

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Old 08-20-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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If libertarians get their wishes then the US will become a feudal society with many warlords and fiefdoms. Since the government will be too small* to actually protect people's rights, the rich will hire their own military force and the poor will have to either work for the rich as pseudo-slaves or risk getting killed.
It's crazy to think private security doesn't work as well as government security.

Look at Detroit. These guys make so much money off paying customers they provide protection to poor people for free. And much better than the city police. Probably why the city is now sending the cops here for training.


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Old 08-20-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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If libertarians get their wishes then the US will become a feudal society with many warlords and fiefdoms. Since the government will be too small* to actually protect people's rights, the rich will hire their own military force and the poor will have to either work for the rich as pseudo-slaves or risk getting killed.

Humans started off as libertarians. The hunter-gatherer societies started off without civilian rulers and military forces. Yet, why did people submit themselves to governments? Because they wanted to protect themselves from the strong, and the only way to do that is to work for the strong.

Libertarians want to cherry-pick their rights but that's just arbitrary. Why do corporations have rights but not the environment? A government small enough to appease the libertarians will be one that's too small to do anything at all.
Our constitution provides all the governments powers in detail.

Politicians bastardized the constitution through the SC.

"Let no crisis go to waste."
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:36 PM
 
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If libertarians get their wishes then the US will become a feudal society with many warlords and fiefdoms. Since the government will be too small* to actually protect people's rights, the rich will hire their own military force and the poor will have to either work for the rich as pseudo-slaves or risk getting killed.

Humans started off as libertarians. The hunter-gatherer societies started off without civilian rulers and military forces. Yet, why did people submit themselves to governments? Because they wanted to protect themselves from the strong, and the only way to do that is to work for the strong.

Libertarians want to cherry-pick their rights but that's just arbitrary. Why do corporations have rights but not the environment? A government small enough to appease the libertarians will be one that's too small to do anything at all.
what a bunch of excrement
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:38 PM
 
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Malkiel = Moron
concise
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